12s N/A possible?

ctrlraven said:
I did 13.7 with minor bolt-ons, stock gears, weakened stock diff. No juice for me and I will have low 13's with a stock motor.


Yeah I know right lol.

I still have full exhaust (LT headers & bigger exhaust piping), 4.10 gears, pulleys and whatever else left to do. 4.10 gears, axle rebuild and bigger cat-back piping will be going on Jan/Feb just in time for racing in March and I can't forget I will have to get another awesome tune by Zack
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Your my target. I hope to have exhaust as well. We shall se what happens in march!
 
Hey, I could be a sleeper in this race. My 14.46 came with 5 year old tires. My Nitto 420s and a Zack tune has got to be worth two tenths if I can hook. The TB and converter could also put me in the mid 13s. And that's w/o touching the exhaust yet.
 
Good luck guys! Once you get in the mid to upper 13s it gets real hard to gain. The 4.56 gears sound like the best way to me. You will need good tires at that point.

The dollars spent to make a 12 second NA car would go a long ways towards adding the power adder. I will be watching as you guys make a run at it!

John
 
It sounds like it could barely be done, but you would ruin the streetability of a 4 door in the process. And to me the whole point of a 4 door is streetability. So forced induction gives you power and streetability.
 
Mest30 said:
Hey, I could be a sleeper in this race. My 14.46 came with 5 year old tires. My Nitto 420s and a Zack tune has got to be worth two tenths if I can hook. The TB and converter could also put me in the mid 13s. And that's w/o touching the exhaust yet.
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ctrlraven said:
I did 13.7 with minor bolt-ons, stock gears, weakened stock diff. No juice for me and I will have low 13's with a stock motor.


Yeah I know right lol.

I still have full exhaust (LT headers & bigger exhaust piping), 4.10 gears, pulleys and whatever else left to do. 4.10 gears, axle rebuild and bigger cat-back piping will be going on Jan/Feb just in time for racing in March and I can't forget I will have to get another awesome tune by Zack
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Blackened300a said:
Your my target. I hope to have exhaust as well. We shall se what happens in march!
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Oh I'm in on this too!!! I should have my headers installed by march:D my car feels real strong as is....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgr7SVpsYUw

I'm on the left, as you can see he clearly kills me from a dig!! But I hold my own after, you can hear me chirp second gear if you listen closely:D Plus you can see he is in boost when his (KB-Marauder-S) meth light kicks on.

This should be a fun spring!!!
 
VicsEvilBrother said:
It sounds like it could barely be done, but you would ruin the streetability of a 4 door in the process. And to me the whole point of a 4 door is streetability. So forced induction gives you power and streetability.
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There is a member on CVN running 13.41 N/A with an 01 vic. That's faster than every N/A Marauder other than Joe's. He might be trying to get to 12s N/A (that or just spraying). If he can do it, Marauders can do it.
 
Mest30 said:
Hey, I could be a sleeper in this race. My 14.46 came with 5 year old tires. My Nitto 420s and a Zack tune has got to be worth two tenths if I can hook. The TB and converter could also put me in the mid 13s. And that's w/o touching the exhaust yet.
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Cold air is key. I went to the track in the summer and couldn't run faster then a 14.3. In the fall I was running a best of 14.0. The last time I ran was in 40 degree temps and pulled the 13.6. Nothing was done to the car expect the change in temps. I launched the same and kept the same PSI in the rear tires.

BTW, the throttlebody netted me 1RWHP and 3RWTQ and about 5hp across the range on the dyno. The convertor will be the biggest help to you.
 
I'm curious about my times now as is with my mods. Wonder what it'll take to get to the 12's NA.
I'm guessing a TC and some Metco arms would get me pretty close with some drag radials and cool temps. What do you guys think, good assumption considering my mods?
 
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Not Going to Happen!!!

Fellows - save your money toward a SC - it just is not going to happen!!

Glenn
 
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Glenn said:
Fellows - save your money towad a SC - it just is not going to happen!!

Glenn
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That kinda talk feeds motovation.

I figure the full exhaust, a good race gas tune, traction and real good air would put my car on the edge of 12's. It would be a freak run but it may be possible.
 
Blackened300a said:
That kinda talk feeds motovation.

I figure the full exhaust, a good race gas tune, traction and real good air would put my car on the edge of 12's. It would be a freak run but it may be possible.
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Paul you need that good air they had at Cecil county this fall. Plus that track is at sea level. Good luck to all of you guys who are trying! ;)
 
400 rwhp

You will probably need close to 400 RWHP to cut 12's. It just is not going to happen!! Save your money toward a SC and run 11's and still have a perfectly streetable car.

Glenn Ford
 
Untuned we were at about 340/340 in the 4.6, so still along way to go to 400. And that was with some pretty major mods.
 
Glenn said:
You will probably need close to 400 RWHP to cut 12's. It just is not going to happen!! Save your money toward a SC and run 11's and still have a perfectly streetable car.

Glenn Ford
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According to pauls signature he has 293RWHP..... And he ran a 13.6, sooooo... Your saying he's gonna need 107 more RWHP to make up 7 tenths of a second... I don't think so!!
 
sd8683 said:
According to pauls signature he has 293RWHP..... And he ran a 13.6, sooooo... Your saying he's gonna need 107 more RWHP to make up 7 tenths of a second... I don't think so!!
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Every 10 RWHP is a tenth, every 100lbs is a tenth. Gearing, TC, and tranny tuning take off tenths without any added power. Just getting the weight down, rear ratio or getting the right tune may make the difference.

I always ran my car at the track the way I run in the street, spare, headlight, and trunk organizer all left in.
 
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