Trilogy project car

Wouldn't conventional wisdom require a bigger heat exchanger in order to effect coolant temperatures? Merely increasing capacity will be unlikely to have an effect, no? If such an assertion is incorrect, please advise with regard to the temperature drop for the new reservoir. What are the before and after coolant temps?
 
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Marauder131 said:
Wouldn't conventional wisdom require a bigger heat exchanger in order to effect coolant temperatures? Merely increasing capacity will be unlikely to have an effect, no? If such an assertion is incorrect, please advise with regard to the temperature drop for the new reservoir. What are the before and after coolant temps?
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Yes this is a very good point, and Grifin makes a larger heat exchanger that has twin cooling fans, Gary Tranvenski also added a real neat exhanger that is huge, and this would really help, I will find a picture and post it, this man was on a very tight budget and we did all we could for him, but the larger reservoir will help.
 
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Dennis Reinhart said:
Yes this is a very good point, and Grifin makes a larger heat exchanger that has twin cooling fans, Gary Tranvenski also added a real neat exhanger that is huge, and this would really help, I will find a picture and post it, this man was on a very tight budget and we did all we could for him, but the larger reservoir will help.
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I'm not following. How then will the addition of only a reservoir be of any benefit on this particular car?
 
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Additional coolant will take longer to heat up....AND cool down!!!:cool: Could have some advantage in drag racing??:confused:

For this same reason deep trans pans are of no real advantage except a couple extra quarts of fluid to buy!!!:shake:
 
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Trilogy Upgrade

Dennis you did a great job on the trilogy mods. The Knock sensor mods you want to pursue will allow even more torque from the from the motor over a wide rpm range.

Gary
 
Gary installed this in his car, that has a Vortech in it, and I feel this would also work great with my older water to air units that are still out there as well as KB Marauders, and I think this would be a very good upgrade for a Trilogy kit as well, I did Stu's 04 several years back, he has a JT Trim with a watter to air, and we may try this and at the same time convert his car to a blow through, and go to a T Trim, the reason for that is they make a T Trim in SQ, the JT has helical cut gears and does make more noise., I will post pictures of all this if we go this route.

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Nice looking fan set-up. I remember seeing a system like that for the first time on a stock Lexus, I think it was. Was blown away by the kind of gear the car came with right from the factory.
 
Dennis Reinhart said:
Now Don at Even flow make a great rear cooling kit, but with this kit it has interference on the passenger side, so I used my rear cooling kit.

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Now here is my most difficult correction, with this kit, as I said it uses a 03 Cobra lower inner cooler intake, the 03 Cobra is a cast block, and the 03 Cobra does not use knock sensors, the 03 Marauder or Mach 1 uses one, the 04 marauder uses 2, but they are aluminum blocks specifically designed for knock sensors located in the valley of the intake, since the kit uses a 03 Cobra intake, it will not clear the Bose's made into the block so they have to be ground down. and the knock sensor relocated to the back of the cylinder head making it basically useless, since it will pick up cam shaft and valve train noise giving a false spark knock.

Here is the stock knock sensor location

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Here is a picture of the boss that has to be ground down to clear the lower intake, and the knock sensor has to be removed.

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The knock sensor is then relocated to the back of the cylinder head, this basically renders the knock sensors useless it is not very clear I will post a better picture tomorrow.

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So what I did today is take red grease dab it on the stock knock sensor boss then install the cobra lower intake, and see where interference is, as shown below.

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What I plan to do is take this intake, drill a hole where the knock sensor interference is enclose that with a sort of aluminum cup, and keep the knock sensor where it's at and it should work as designed. More to follow. I will do this on a 03 Marauder motor I am installing in my wifes 98 Mark 8 with a Cora Eaton blower, I would have tried this on this car car but the owner has to be on the road by Friday.:beer:
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This the only fault I find with any Eaton kit, removing the knock sensors, I would really like to see if I could modify the inner cooler and keep the knock sensors in place, also add a much larger cooling reservoir as well as a larger heat exchanger with twin fans and a higher volume water pump for the inner cooler.
 
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