For Sale 1987 Buick Grand National

robertmee said:
Did you mean new Master Cylinder resevoir, cause the master cylinder on the Powermaster unit does not look new at all. Are you missing the Turbo Shroud or was it removed for the picture?

Looks to be fairly stock other than the transmission upgrade. The 2004r transmissions are very solid so curious as to why it was changed on this car when no other performance upgrades were done?

6K is probably right in line for this condition/mileage car.

EDIT: Is that a factory moon roof (Astro roof) or aftermarket? If factory you should advertise better as they are more rare.
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1-Master cyl. is new,
what you see is surface rust because it was never painted when installed.
2-Turbo shroud is missing.
3-Trans info is as provided by owner.
4-Moon roof is factory (will revise listing, Thanks.):)
 
This car is rough, master cylinder is not correct, not powermaster, changed, a quick look I'd say wow this has been ridden hard, notice screws around top trim, rusted! Hmmmm but I'm an old fart so don't listen to me. price might be in ball park for this car but not much more as I believe it would take a good buck to have a nice one.
Bet 126,000 or more miles, easy to change miles with these cars, look's not taken care of at all!!!!!! To be blunt this car looks BEAT!!!!
 
Also trans on these cars had a special valve body, if rebuilt ok, if just changed a major no-no as different. this could be a big buck issue just for the trans if ya don't know what your doing, so I guess what I'm saying have someone who knows these cars look over real good before buying this thing!
 
Da maybe I should go on, performance upgrades, air cleaner enclosure missing, mastercylinder (not correct one) rusted? Not new! Sorry info is not correct! etc. etc. etc. I think if I really wanted to I could find more but what for!
 
I beg to differ sir.
All info is correct as I know it.
Mileage is correct as vehicle history report attests to.
Also photos will show others the same things that you saw (clean interior as well as body defects).
Nothing is intentionally hidden and the phone number has been listed to the owner for any questions,
so why go out of your way to trash the sale.
Very tacky.:confused::(
 
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Baaad GN said:
master cylinder is not correct, not powermaster, changed
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True, someone's done a vacuum brake conversion on the car, which is a very common and popular mod. The powermaster brakes are electric and problematic when the electric pump fails (can you say no hydraulic brakes at that point). I myself have a hydroboost unit (same hydraulic principle but uses power steering pump) sitting on the shelf ready to change out my powermaster unit in my 86.

Sooo.....Bottom line, to the OP, you might mention that a vacuum brake conversion has been done on the vehicle, but its not a deal breaker by any means and some will consider it a desired upgrade.
 
robertmee said:
True, someone's done a vacuum brake conversion on the car, which is a very common and popular mod. The powermaster brakes are electric and problematic when the electric pump fails (can you say no hydraulic brakes at that point). I myself have a hydroboost unit (same hydraulic principle but uses power steering pump) sitting on the shelf ready to change out my powermaster unit in my 86.

Sooo.....Bottom line, to the OP, you might mention that a vacuum brake conversion has been done on the vehicle, but its not a deal breaker by any means and some will consider it a desired upgrade.
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Thanks robertmee,
I'll revise the ad including that information.
I just resent the implication that we are trying to dupe anyone with the info provided.
I am not a GN expert (owned only Lincolns, Mercurys and Fords my whole life).
I've only relayed the info provided to me.
And as stated in the original post (Not My Car).
Thank to all that have positive information to share.
 
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Sorry I'm not trying to trash anything, I said if someone is interested to make sure they have someone look at it who knows GN's! I do! Also let me say I bought mine new and still have it although it's almost worn out with 51,000 miles on it. Also I know the pitfalls of what someone will run into in buying one, can be expensive. Now I'll really upset people, mine runs good and I'd blow any Maurader off the road unless it is supercharged, thern it's neck to neck, mine will run in the 11/12's all day long with $400.00 dollors of mod's and I love it so much it'll be mine until I die, then it's my son's.
Note it would take little to clean up the engine compartment, that along tellls me someone didn't take good care of it or at least try to hide that fact a little. Clean seats? wonderful!
 
Hmmm maybe I should say $6,000 is cheap and could be a good deal but just understand $6,000 is the staring point. Look for rust! killer!
 
Baaad GN said:
Now I'll really upset people, mine runs good and I'd blow any Maurader off the road unless it is supercharged, thern it's neck to neck, mine will run in the 11/12's all day long with $400.00 dollors of mod's and I love it so much it'll be mine until I die, then it's my son's.
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I appreciate your passion for your GN. I love mine as well. Mine is a built out 10 sec 1/4 mile car. However, not to get too far into Jolly's for sale thread, but let's get a few facts straight.

The 86/87 GNs were the fastest production cars of those years...Corvette owners hated that and it is one reason GM stopped production of the GN. However, fast is relative. The stock GNs were 14.1 sec 1/4 mile cars. The 87 GNX was 13.5. So, no matter how you slice it, $400 worth of bolt ons is not going to give you a 11 sec GN. No way, no how.

If you want an idea of what it takes to get a GN to 11, 10 and 9 second quarters, follow some of the 'recipes' that have been proven over time. None of them can you do for anywhere near $400. Yes, a CAI kit, hot wiring your fuel pump and some other cheaper mods may get you to low 13s, but not 11s. And yes, low 13's will likely beat many stock or slightly modded marauders. And for an apple to apple comparison, you can make a GN faster than a marauder all day long for the same amount of $ applied. But they are two different beasts. The marauder you're doing it in luxury. A GN was built for speed and speed only. I love both my GN and MM but for different reasons.

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/recipes/recipepage.html
 
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