Matt Johnson
Matt Johnson
Got stuck with the "Low Fuel" light and had to pull into the 76 station in Beverly Hills where it's flowing at $3.999 (not a typo)/gallon. $60-something bucks later....
$3.999/gal
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Matt Johnson
Matt Johnson
KillJoy said:
You wouldn't ride the bus if you lived in LA....
shannon corkill
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It is sad that my economy car is an 1988 Trans am GTA. It runs on 87oct and gets 22-25mpg....Yet my wife wants me to sell it.
The gas prices are ridiculous! Thank you Mr. Clinton for shutting down refineries here in the states during your term.
The gas prices are ridiculous! Thank you Mr. Clinton for shutting down refineries here in the states during your term.
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Matt Johnson
Matt Johnson
I don't want to start a war here at all, but to blame gas prices on Clinton?
Come on...that's a stretch, don't you think? I don't think you can blame them on Clinton anymore than you can blame them on Bush. In fact, neither of these guys really has much to do with it at all.
If anything, we all just use way too much gas in the country. And as high as prices are right now, it's really the first time we've started paying what most of the rest of the world has been paying for years.
Blame our consumption, way of life, lack of adequate and efficient public transportation, the fact that many of us live miles from our work places in suburbs and not smack dab in the middle of an older (European, or East Coast) city where walking, taxis, busses, subways, trains are more efficient, government sanctioned corporate greed, OPEC, etc...
All that said, am I going to drive less? Unfortunately not. I'm an addict and I like my car way too much and like keeping my foot in it more. I blame myself for high gas prices, but I'm not willing to change my behavior.
But that's why I bought my wife a new hybrid...'even' things out a little
Come on...that's a stretch, don't you think? I don't think you can blame them on Clinton anymore than you can blame them on Bush. In fact, neither of these guys really has much to do with it at all.
If anything, we all just use way too much gas in the country. And as high as prices are right now, it's really the first time we've started paying what most of the rest of the world has been paying for years.
Blame our consumption, way of life, lack of adequate and efficient public transportation, the fact that many of us live miles from our work places in suburbs and not smack dab in the middle of an older (European, or East Coast) city where walking, taxis, busses, subways, trains are more efficient, government sanctioned corporate greed, OPEC, etc...
All that said, am I going to drive less? Unfortunately not. I'm an addict and I like my car way too much and like keeping my foot in it more. I blame myself for high gas prices, but I'm not willing to change my behavior.
But that's why I bought my wife a new hybrid...'even' things out a little
SergntMac
Shelby GT X2--Back In Black
I'm seeing my low fuel light more recently than ever, but I know that once I cross the 300 mile mark on my trip odometer, it's time to shop by price.
Typically, once the light comes on, the needle says "very empty", yet it takes 15.7 to 16.2 gallons, depending on the sensivity of the pump. So, I know that once I see the light, I have 2-3 gallons left to shop on.
One of these days, I'm going to run it dry, just to see what a bone dry fuel tank holds. Specs say it's a 19 gallon tank, but I have never pumped over 17 gallons...In either MM.
Typically, once the light comes on, the needle says "very empty", yet it takes 15.7 to 16.2 gallons, depending on the sensivity of the pump. So, I know that once I see the light, I have 2-3 gallons left to shop on.
One of these days, I'm going to run it dry, just to see what a bone dry fuel tank holds. Specs say it's a 19 gallon tank, but I have never pumped over 17 gallons...In either MM.
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hitchhiker
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shannon corkill said:
That's absurd with or without any further consideration.
Years later and still bashing Clinton! Wow!
Look to the current regime for connections to the oil companies and the failure to 'motivate' them properly in the interest of the American public.
I will attempt to explain things as I see them with a minimum of politicking.
The Gas thing is all about economics and the ability of a government to regulate and control the marketplace in time of crisis to achieve objectives which serve the national interest.
Get out an economics textbook and look up the concept of diminishing returns. Business people run their operations based on analytics and metrics learned while obtaining business and economics degrees.
Right now, oil refining and distribution companies are at a point on the profits curve which benefits them. Spending more money on additional refining capacity, which they should do from a 'good citizenship' perspective, does not serve their shareholders interest in profits. Once past a certain level of spending to produce a given capacity, they enter a zone of 'diminishing returns' when they spend more money to add additional capacity. Each new dollar spent in this zone of diminishing returns produces less and less profit. All business's attempt to tune their operating levels and capacities to achieve the maximum profit for each dollar invested.
A clever government however, can step into the picture and 'tune' the economic reality in which business operates.
A forced choice brought about by the threat of taxing them the same amount it would cost them to increase refinining capacity would induce actions in the interest of US citizen consumers. This would effectively 'reset' the optimum production point to one which would provide cheaper gasoline for American consumers.
Past administrations, both Democrat and Republican used to bring the talent on board needed to understand these things. They used to be good at 'tuning' the economy to produce desired results. They used to be able to confidently manage several world problems at the same time.
The current regime hasn't got the slightest clue about what to do about oil prices, gas prices, illegal aliens and the employers who bring them here, North Korea, China, Iraq, Iran, re-emergent Latin American socialist dictators, Cuba or much of anything else for that matter.
This modern version of 'The Spoils System' has resulted in a government that, at present, functions marginally at best.
I observe this happening with the current regime, but this unfortunate situation is by no means confined to Republican players in our political system.
Folks, we will soon realize, as a country, that we are in for the fight of our lives over influence, natural resources, economics, and safety. During WW II many orders were dispatched by our government to 'tune' our economy to support a war footing. This administration instead has done little more than assist its wealthy patrons in profiteering at every turn instead of solving problems and serving the American people.
Where is a Harry Truman for the modern age?
These idiots are sorely in need of a good old-fashined Missouri cussin!
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LVMarauder
Senior Member
Its 3.65 up here in Santa Barbara
Mac- When its on the red line you have 2 gallons left, and will take about 16.9-17 to fill.
Mac- When its on the red line you have 2 gallons left, and will take about 16.9-17 to fill.
shannon corkill
Member
It is so much fun firing up people's political views. During the 90s the EPA had Clinton support and shut down non EPA compliant refineries and not a single new refinery was built.
I don't even want to touch the whole ethanol issue.
I completely agree that is not just a Clinton thing...it is a political greed issue....Self-induced inflation of the prices. The funny thing is our oil doesn't just come the gulf. Mexico and Venezuela are major contributors. We need to be cautious of the environment and do exploration of the states and build new refineries now as they take several years to make....just my 2 cents
It is getting cheaper to run 100 octane vs 92 octane
Gas is over $4.00 on Coronado! BTW
I don't even want to touch the whole ethanol issue.
I completely agree that is not just a Clinton thing...it is a political greed issue....Self-induced inflation of the prices. The funny thing is our oil doesn't just come the gulf. Mexico and Venezuela are major contributors. We need to be cautious of the environment and do exploration of the states and build new refineries now as they take several years to make....just my 2 cents
It is getting cheaper to run 100 octane vs 92 octane
Gas is over $4.00 on Coronado! BTW
Jolly Roger
The Original Hellcat.
Sunoco 93---$3.05 per gal. in Cleveland, Ohio.
Matt Johnson
Matt Johnson
SergntMac said:
I usually 'fill up' with 15.5-15.9 gals. I've never seen 16.