Any opinions on the Lincoln LS?

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I have been thinking about a replacement for my wife's Mystique. It is getting close to 100,000 miles. Plus since I got the MM she figures it's her turn. She is probably right. I had been anticipating the possibility of replacing it with a Montego but frankly the two I have seen have not impressed me. I may change my mind after I test-drive one.
Anyway, I was wandering around the lot at the dealer while I was getting the oil changed in the MM and they had 3 used LS in the lot for under 25K. They looked like pretty nice cars and I'll think I'll start doing some research. Anyone have any thoughts on the LS?
 
It depends what year LS, they bumped the horse power from 250 to 280 in 2003, ive driven both, you can tell a difference, the car handles well too...nice car...
Rodster said:
I have been thinking about a replacement for my wife's Mystique. It is getting close to 100,000 miles. Plus since I got the MM she figures it's her turn. She is probably right. I had been anticipating the possibility of replacing it with a Montego but frankly the two I have seen have not impressed me. I may change my mind after I test-drive one.
Anyway, I was wandering around the lot at the dealer while I was getting the oil changed in the MM and they had 3 used LS in the lot for under 25K. They looked like pretty nice cars and I'll think I'll start doing some research. Anyone have any thoughts on the LS?
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I rented a couple of V8s in the late spring of 2002 in the Tampa region. Boy did I have a lot of fun, and I blame that car for getting me started down the path to replacing my Honda Civic with a more fun car (hence, the Marauder).

The stereo thumped (put it through it's paces with a distortion-free to-the-max listen to Enter Sandman played from one of the local stations). The seats were comfortable. And the thing got scratch on the manual 1-2 upshift somewhere near redline (which I recall being fairly high... 6500?).
 
HMMMMMM... Replace a Mystique with an LS ??

Hello Rodster,
In response to your inquiry about the Linc.LS. I have woked for FORD since 1969,and have seen them come & go. The LS is OK for those who have not experienced a real Lincoln,but falls short in areas such as performance,comfort,and reliability. In my opinion as a long time Blue Oval Guy, the only thing better than a Marauder in the garage is two Marauders in the garage. Dollar for dollar it's far more car. If she doesn't like the MM maybe a nice Crown Vic. or Grand Marquis.
Just my opinion,
Blown & Bad

P.S.
Go to your local dealer's shop, and see how many LS cars are broken compared to the Crown Vics.,Town Cars,or Grand Marquis & Marauders.
 
I was close to buying an LS but the MM came around. But the LS (V-8) is a good car. Exterior styling was great but I just didnt like the layout of the inside. And then it was priced at almost $40,000. Still a good ride!!
 
blown & bad said:
Hello Rodster,
In response to your inquiry about the Linc.LS. I have woked for FORD since 1969,and have seen them come & go. The LS is OK for those who have not experienced a real Lincoln,but falls short in areas such as performance,comfort,and reliability. In my opinion as a long time Blue Oval Guy, the only thing better than a Marauder in the garage is two Marauders in the garage. Dollar for dollar it's far more car. If she doesn't like the MM maybe a nice Crown Vic. or Grand Marquis.
Just my opinion,
Blown & Bad

P.S.
Go to your local dealer's shop, and see how many LS cars are broken compared to the Crown Vics.,Town Cars,or Grand Marquis & Marauders.
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..yes-what he^^^^^^^^^^^says--right out of my mouth!!!! put 2 under the covers--some on this board have been fortuniate to do so..... :bows:
 
I had a 2002 LS with a V8 and thought it was a really nice car. It handled great and had good power. It had a lot of goodies including rain sensing wipers, Alpine radio system, power tilt-telescopic wheel and a bunch of other goodies. Would I buy another. Yes if it wasn't priced so upmarket now. I had not one bit of trouble out of mine. Motor Trend just did a review on used LS's and thought it was a good buy. Good luck on your choice.
 

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I don't know what the latest one looks like, but the one in the pic that Slim posted has tail lights that are waaaaaay too big for my taste. I just can't get passed the looks of the BIG tail light and headlight lenses on most of the new cars that are made today. I mean how big do they really need to be for people to see them????
 
I too looked at the LS. I rode in one and tried the A/C seats. Interesting feeling, kinda like peeing your pants sensation.
Anyway, back on topic. The LS is nice just not enough car to command that kinda money. Plus, I thought the inside was a little tight.
 
jstevens said:
I too looked at the LS. I rode in one and tried the A/C seats. Interesting feeling, kinda like peeing your pants sensation.
Anyway, back on topic. The LS is nice just not enough car to command that kinda money. Plus, I thought the inside was a little tight.
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I agree! If you've got any height, or weight to you (6'6" 275 - I have both), you'll quickly wish the interior was larger. The back seat isn't exactly inviting, either.:rolleyes:

Nice looking car, and well apointed, but the price tag puts it in with some tough competition.
 
2004 Ls

I bought a new 2004 LS Sport V8 for 30+ with a 41 MSRP. So far, very pleased.

Good points:
surprisingly quick (rated at 0-60; low/mid 6 second bracket); I believe it

feels quicker than my 2003 TBird (same motor/trans), but that might be just a seat of the pants feeling

takes turns like it's on rails

getting almost 20 mpg with very little highway, but the car only has 1,000 miles on it; computer says high 20's on the highway (I got 28.5 avg mpg on the Bird over a 700 mile trip.)

SST trans is a nice feature; allows almost full control of the five speed trans; also allows a 3rd gear start for poor weather conditions

good, solid ride (much more so than the Bird)

great deals price-wise

fold down rear seats; lot's of amenities

Bad:

not wild about the dash; should have been more upclass

little nit picks, like difficulty getting change out of the change holder while driving; more radio features (6CD in dash) in the TBird even though it's basically the same radio

vanishes in a crowd (light Tundra Metallic), but if I want to be noticed, I drive the Bird or my two old cars

Best way to sum it up when comparing it to my TBird is, you take the TBird for a RIDE, you DRIVE the Lincoln LS.

My wife (it's her car) loves it, and we moved from a TownCar to the LS.

I'm an empty nester; a little bit under 6', 207 lbs, so massive trunk space and large rear seat is not a concern
 
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Had one for two years as a company car 2001-2003. The main problem for me was it just wasn't comfortable. I'm 6'2" - 225# and it was always a beeoch to get in and out. And it felt like I was always sitting far deep under the hood for some reason.

For the same money I would look at some Euro models for your wife.

PR :burnout:
 
Jerrym, your LS has a 3.9 liter derived form the Jaguar S series. You T-Bird had a 4.6 from many different Ford products such as the Town Car. I am a pretty big guy and I loved how the car felt. It had a good driving postion and felt Germanic in a lot of ways.
 
I know where the World's Fastest Lincoln LS lives....you can come see it next Friday sitting next to Marty's car.





 
Birds an LS's

The 03 Bird has the 3.9 motor and five speed trans, 280 hp, 3:58 rear..

My 94 Bird has the 4.6, 205 hp, 3:27 rear.

(Just for comparison, my 58 Bird has a 352, 250 hp motor)
 
My wife has a 2000 sport. I have always liked the car. Oodles of standard options we lack...and need! It rides great, handles wonderfully, and has gobs of power on the freeway. The maintainence is normal in my opinion. One heated seat went out last year, two headlamps replaced, front calipers re-honed. All warranty items.

I never prefered the soft shifts, nor the shift points. We took the car to Jerry W. this year and had a perforformance tune and tweak. Although my wife was unwilling to change the firmness of shifts or t/c lockup points, she allowed the power flash.

We were pleased with the dyno results of 194.5 rwhp, what is that, about 236 at the crank?

The car feels far more powerfull than it was, and is likely better than a stock '04.

The trunk space is severely limited, but the stereo and it's components that take some of that space is OUTSTANDING.

Summary, great car for the wife, she loves it, and gets many compliments.

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Barry, I know I really liked mine. When the lease is up on my PT I may get a nice used LS.
 
I have a 2000 LS V6 with a manual transmission and sport package. It looks identical to Cruztaker's car except my wheels are not chrome plated. While it's not a quick car below 3,000rpm (like the Marauder), above 3,000rpm it pulls nicely all the way to the rev limiter (about 6,800rpm). You gotta watch the tach because the motor doesn't fall far off the power band. This is the only car I've owned that felt like that. Smoothest shifting 5-speed I have ever driven.

The handling is really where the car shines. It is an incredibly stable car to drive. No matter how hard I've pushed it through turns (25mph exit ramp at 65-70mph), I haven't gotten the tires (BFG G-Force KDWS) to loose any grip. The alpine audio system has 9 speakers and is clear, balanced, and booming.

I test drove three of these cars before I bought this one. A V6 automatic without sport package, and a V8 (all V8 cars were automatics). They were both good solid riding cars, but the sport package made a big difference to me. And the V6 with manual trans was almost as quick as the V8.

My only real complaint is the clutch is softer than I would like. I prefer a clutch that really grabs.

Bottom line. I love the car! If anything happened to my Marauder, I'd buy another LS.
 
Lincoln LS

Bigslim, your thinking about the previous generation (4-passenger) Thunderbird that had a 4.6L. :confused:
 
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