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alec2538

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Two quick questions:

1. Can these tires really be THIS BAD?? I just installed a set, OE size. They came with the car when I bought it. Good lord I've ruined things! I'm coming off a set of Champiro WinterPro tires and I'm strongly considering re-installing them. That's how bad they are. The rear end is jittery, the ride is terrible, and they barely grip at all! The winter's on a 90 degree today had better traction.

2. Conundrum: the front BFG's are practically new, 8/32's or so. I really hate throwing them out regardless of how terrible they are. I've read many a thread on tires but I'll ask specifically about rears. Does someone have good experience with a cost-effective rear tire, whether in the stock size or one size up, that will be acceptable for every day driving? I don't race, I don't drag, and I don't track. Just regular commuting is all the car ever sees.

Thanks for everyone's opinion!
 
alec2538 said:
Two quick questions:

1. Can these tires really be THIS BAD?? I just installed a set, OE size. They came with the car when I bought it. Good lord I've ruined things! I'm coming off a set of Champiro WinterPro tires and I'm strongly considering re-installing them. That's how bad they are. The rear end is jittery, the ride is terrible, and they barely grip at all! The winter's on a 90 degree today had better traction.

2. Conundrum: the front BFG's are practically new, 8/32's or so. I really hate throwing them out regardless of how terrible they are. I've read many a thread on tires but I'll ask specifically about rears. Does someone have good experience with a cost-effective rear tire, whether in the stock size or one size up, that will be acceptable for every day driving? I don't race, I don't drag, and I don't track. Just regular commuting is all the car ever sees.

Thanks for everyone's opinion!
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To answer your question Hell yes! they are terrible! get a set of NITTOs , and never look back!
 
Good it's not just me.

Nitto's seem to be the best overall tire I've read about on here. Are the 555's the general concensus?
 
alec2538 said:
Good it's not just me.

Nitto's seem to be the best overall tire I've read about on here. Are the 555's the general concensus?
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That would be my choice , i have 20s with Toyos , and couldn't get Nittos in the size i wanted , otherwise i would have went with the Nittos.
 
yes,. OR the Nitto Motivos... I went +1 size overall. LOVE THEM. Little softer sidewall when pushed hard --great crusing tire.
 
The BFG's are terrible. You'll spend time thinking of other words for "BFG" when trying to drive your car at speed (over 75 MPH).
I installed the NITTO and love them.
 
Do you have a tune for the car? Sway bar and rear control arm upgrades? If so you could go with a lower profile setup that gives great handling, 255/45-18 on the front and 265/50-18 on the rear. I ran a General Tire and Nitto Tire with that tire combo setup and loved the sharp handling. Though with the lower/stiffer sidewall it took bumps a little rougher but the trade off was worth it in my book.
 
I'm the opposite I like the bf goodrich because the factory look, then again I hardly drive my car. Had all bf goodrich on my previous marauders and never had an issue.
 
LG88 said:
I'm the opposite I like the bf goodrich because the factory look, then again I hardly drive my car. Had all bf goodrich on my previous marauders and never had an issue.
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The new BFG's are very different than the OEM BFG's that were originally spec'd for the MM.
 
ctrlraven said:
Do you have a tune for the car? Sway bar and rear control arm upgrades? If so you could go with a lower profile setup that gives great handling, 255/45-18 on the front and 265/50-18 on the rear. I ran a General Tire and Nitto Tire with that tire combo setup and loved the sharp handling. Though with the lower/stiffer sidewall it took bumps a little rougher but the trade off was worth it in my book.
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I'm running 255/45-18 on the front and 295/45-18 on the rear (widened wheels). All Hankooks.
 
LG88 said:
I'm the opposite I like the bf goodrich because the factory look, then again I hardly drive my car. Had all bf goodrich on my previous marauders and never had an issue.
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I felt the original tires were fine. Haven't tried them on snow though. They are no longer being made.
 
ctrlraven said:
Do you have a tune for the car? Sway bar and rear control arm upgrades? If so you could go with a lower profile setup that gives great handling, 255/45-18 on the front and 265/50-18 on the rear. I ran a General Tire and Nitto Tire with that tire combo setup and loved the sharp handling. Though with the lower/stiffer sidewall it took bumps a little rougher but the trade off was worth it in my book.
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The only suspention modification is that the rear airbags have been replaced with springs. Everything is OE right down to the shocks (that are tired).

I appreciate all the advice, I'm going to get a list together and then do some research before pulling the trigger. I'm going to try to run these tires through this summer since it's only a few months, then save over the winter for a fresh set next spring.
 
I just put a new set of BFG's on mine. MM has 41,000 and not my DD. The only reason I replaced the old set was because of the age, about 10 years old, however looked brand new. The new ones seem to give a better ride than the old ones IMHO, but I have not put a lot of miles on them either.
 
fastblackmerc said:
The new BFG's are very different than the OEM BFG's that were originally spec'd for the MM.
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^^^^ This is true. The BFGs that came on the Camaro are NOT the same tires that came on the Marauder and have a very thin sidewall and roll/flex too much in the turns or quick maneuvers. They are a Radial T/A and NOT a performance tire. Here is a review of that tire >>>>> http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55895&highlight=bald

LG88 said:
I'm the opposite I like the bf goodrich because the factory look, then again I hardly drive my car. Had all bf goodrich on my previous marauders and never had an issue.
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I like the OEM BFGs too for sidewall stiffness and handling. Never a problem with wet or dry traction. With the exception of tire wear (especially on the rear 245s), I have never had a problem with the original BFGs. I am on my 3rd set of front 235s (about 36K average) and 5th set of rear 245s (about 22K average). I tried the 255/18 Goodyear Eagle RS-D3s on the rear but only got 15K out of those and the back end jumped out with the Goodyears about 5 times as much as the BFGs in the rain.


88LTDCV351 said:
I felt the original tires were fine. Haven't tried them on snow though. They are no longer being made.
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So do I ^^^^^ and I lay on the MM and throw it around quite a bit on the turns and twisties. I think the preference for other brands of performance tires has more to do with particular driving styles and habits than anything else.

The OEM BFGs are terrible in snow or ice. After one full revolution, the tread on the BFGs would choke up with snow and you were left with little to no traction at all. Like running Slicks in the rain. Driving with them in the snow was not a fun experience on those days where I got caught at work or somewhere and had no other choice.
 
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The only thing wrong with the BFG's is the way the rears wear, and that they generally wear too quickly. They do not cause the issues you described.
 
tbone said:
The only thing wrong with the BFG's is the way the rears wear, and that they generally wear too quickly. They do not cause the issues you described.
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I suspect that he is running the BFG T/A Radials and not the OEM BFG T/A g-Force KDWS ..... or he may have the 245/18 T/A Radial on the rear and the 235/18 KDWS up front which likely would cause major handling problems due to the mismatch.
 
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