Cash for Clunkers is going too far.

If I were in the market for a new car, except for the "cash for clunkers" program, where else could I get $4,500 for a 1994 TBird with 145,000 miles and a touchy transmission?
 
jerrym3 said:
If I were in the market for a new car, except for the "cash for clunkers" program, where else could I get $4,500 for a 1994 TBird with 145,000 miles and a touchy transmission?
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Dealers have end of year model close outs/sales, I've seen rebates higher than 4,500 bucks for your trade in. I still get love letters from Toyota because of a Highlander Hybrid I bought from them. I will get a repeat customer discount of XXXXXX if I come in and buy another vehicle from them, etc. etc. I can't see trading in a car that runs and is paid off for a new one that I have to pay for, but to each thier own.
 
jerrym3 said:
If I were in the market for a new car, except for the "cash for clunkers" program, where else could I get $4,500 for a 1994 TBird with 145,000 miles and a touchy transmission?
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I don't believe you're actually getting anything.

That $4,500 was already yours to begin with! It's not the Governments money. Never was! They just took it from some poor SOB who's only crime was punching the time clock every day.

Suppose I gave my friend $4,500 and a car. The next day he gave me my money back, minus the car. Is that what you'd call a deal?

I pay the IRS $XX,XXX dollars every April 15th. Now they are willing to give me part of that back if I give them my Jeep? Forget it! If they want to stimulate the economy, why not cut my taxes instead? That always works. This program seems to be pissing off a lot of people.

Selling that T-Bird for $1,000 to a private party is a much better deal. Better yet, donate it to a charity and write $2,000 off your taxes instead. I'm sure you can spend your money better than Obama can.
 
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One of my problems with the program is that it is taking lower end cars off the used market making it harder for people of modest means to afford transportation. Many of these cars are servicable and putting more new cars on the street continues to consume resources and does nothing to cause auto manufactures to face reality and reduce capacity.
 
yeah right...

IF the true purpose of this plan were to stimulate the AMERICAN ECONOMY...our tax dollars would be limited to buying products that were built in America! Darn right it is unAmerican to buy vehicles built in other countries while our brothers and sisters and neighbors beg for jobs in a tanking economy.

Shora said:
Yeah, it's Obama's fault that your fellow Americans can CARE LESS about the D3 (Detroit 3). If they made it "A Clunker for a D3 product only" program, many of your fellow Americans would have just named it "Clunker for Newer Clunker".

The nerve of calling most Americans "Un-American" because they don't give a shat about the UAWs or the profits that go to white collar execs. in the D3 (can you talk about the large bonuses they received while running the companies to the ground with a straight face?). Blaming Obama for what Americans choose to spend their money on is even more ridiculous.

Our American brothers and sisters are not stupid. They are also very patriotic. If they don't want to buy from the D3, I say GOOD FOR THEM and I would think HARD before I point a finger at one of them.

*Note: In my family we ONLY bought from Detroit for the last 21 consecutive years. I broke that trend in November of 2008 and I ain't looking back. From now on, the D3 has competition in my family and they will ONLY get our money if WE decide we want to give it to them. So long as the UAW are there, things don't look good (but at least they aren't out).
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cassidy said:
IF the true purpose of this plan were to stimulate the AMERICAN ECONOMY...our tax dollars would be limited to buying products that were built in America! Darn right it is unAmerican to buy vehicles built in other countries while our brothers and sisters and neighbors beg for jobs in a tanking economy.
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Toyota - Made in KY
Nissan - Made in TN
Honda - Made in AL/OH
VW - Made in TN
BMW - Made in SC
Mercedes Made in AL

They are providing AMERICAN jobs.....

My Mercury Marauder....made in Canada....
 
SOME are assembled in the United States

Few include any United Auto Worker Union members...
and the real profits go overseas !!!

My tax dollars stimulating the American Economy should
have been focused on the BIG THREE...a secondary compromise
would have been automobiles ASSEMBLED in America...

Someone PLEASE post the list of which autos were most purchased
with stimulus funds. I saw it posted recently and have to find it again.
Like seven out of the top ten were foreign automobile manufacturers.

Our Marauders were at least made in North America and the profits went to FORD.


BUY AMERICAN THE JOB AND ECONOMY YOU SAVE WILL BE YOUR OWN !!! :flag:
 
cassidy said:
Few include any United Auto Worker Union members...
and the real profits go overseas !!!
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The UAW is what is causing there to be no profits. The foreign automakers intentionally built plants in "right to work" states (aka no unions). The UAW labor is DOUBLE what the labor in the south costs. This is the major reason why they arent hurting as bad as the American companies. I'm sorry but if someone demands that they get paid double a reasonable rate for labor, you deserve to have no job and go hungry.
 
cassidy said:
Few include any United Auto Worker Union members...
and the real profits go overseas !!!

My tax dollars stimulating the American Economy should
have been focused on the BIG THREE...a secondary compromise
would have been automobiles ASSEMBLED in America...
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So it's Obama's fault that the American public doesn't give a shat about the UAWs? The American public chooses not to support them. Deal with it (or not) but STOP blaiming Obama for it.

By the way, the "Big Three" no longer exist. They are now known as the Detroit 3 (before you start, it's not Obama's fault either.)

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The UAW is what is causing there to be no profits. The foreign automakers intentionally built plants in "right to work" states (aka no unions). The UAW labor is DOUBLE what the labor in the south costs. This is the major reason why they arent hurting as bad as the American companies. I'm sorry but if someone demands that they get paid double a reasonable rate for labor, you deserve to have no job and go hungry.
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Ding Ding Ding.
 
CBT said:
Are you kidding? And ruin this political thread? GTFO NOOB!
j/k, I am going to swing buy a couple places around here and scope it out.:cool:
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Isn't that only going to make you sad if you see some SWEET old ride? It is already destined to the crusher, so theres no saving it? Maybe we could do a sit-in like greenpeace does. Except we could be brownpiece?
 
My wife told me I had to quit looking at the pictures and videos of the cars being crushed or destroyed. She doesn't mind the porn, but the car videos screw up my head too much for her.
 
mrjones said:
My wife told me I had to quit looking at the pictures and videos of the cars being crushed or destroyed. She doesn't mind the porn, but the car videos screw up my head too much for her.
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I know what you mean. There are going to be some future classics destroyed. If they keep funding this program,and when was a gubmit program ever dropped, some of our cars may be in that category, robbing someone of parts.
 
we have a 97 mustang cobra...i dont see how they can justify it as a C4C because we just sold a 97 for $8500...

This damn thing is pissing me off, ive been lookin for a decent 4 wheel drive truck for winter use but there all getting traded in. Even a very nice looking c10 got traded in :(
 
Gre8one7 said:
we have a 97 mustang cobra...i dont see how they can justify it as a C4C because we just sold a 97 for $8500...

This damn thing is pissing me off, ive been lookin for a decent 4 wheel drive truck for winter use but there all getting traded in. Even a very nice looking c10 got traded in :(
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That's b.s., I'm not a Mustang fan but anything with "Cobra" on it should not be smooshed. Even the old CobraII like Farrah drove on Charlies Angels.
 
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