GT500 5.8 swap

or you can fit a supercharged 4.6 in there easy as well

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or a huge single plane carb setup with a 5.4 4v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFvlUuy0wSY
 
65fastback2+2 said:
too busy doing swaps in f150's and mustangs to waste time on a 4-door land barge swap just for giggles.

but keep believing 3/4" is keeping you from doing it.
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I'm not the one swapping anything. Anything can be done with enough money and a BFH. 3/4 " ain't stopping me , it can be 3 feet, I'm not looking to swap my motor. Do all the 1/2 ton swaps you want. Like that is hard or something. Why not drop a v8 caterpillar and a fuller 18 speed while you're at it
 
Bad_S55 said:
Okay Chief. I don't know it's history before that so I'll take your word on that. That's still an aero, not a whale. A fair amount of different stuff.

Here's another thing I can say about the 5.4 DOHC; the extra deck alone height isn't the problem. The problem is that it pushes the already wide heads out even further, ramming right into the HVAC box.
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I rather not have anyone take my word for it as it leaves the impression that there is still room for doubt so I rather just post evidence to support what I say.

Here he is helping a member by the the handle dohcmerc
http://unitedpantherownersassociation.us/Forum/Thread-5-4L?page=20

here he is saying he has done it
http://unitedpantherownersassociation.us/Forum/Thread-5-4L-swap?pid=26334#pid26334

here he is talking about the weight
http://unitedpantherownersassociation.us/Forum/Thread-5-4L-swap?pid=26367#pid26367


http://unitedpantherownersassociation.us/Forum/Thread-5-4L-swap?pid=26370#pid26370

http://unitedpantherownersassociation.us/Forum/Thread-5-4L-swap?pid=26348#pid26348
 
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So you want a bigger motor (5.4), build trans, return style fuel system, big brakes, a six point roll bar (Maybe), upgraded rear end, and drag radials (Short list). Is that what you are talking about? :beer: Some people said it was impossible to go to the moon. A single Saturn V launch cost up to $375 million in 1969 — or, in today’s money, a few billion dollars. So why not transplant that 5.4 motor into a Marauder. If you have the funds and time I will be glad to see your progress. Their are a few members on this site that have real world experience in managing major projects like the one you are talking about, but good advice does not come free, just keep that in mind.


So if it's all about cubic inches then take a look at this motor. Its already been done on a Marauder.
http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/crate-engines/big-block-zz-572-720-r.html
 
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RubberCtyRauder said:
I'm not the one swapping anything. Anything can be done with enough money and a BFH. 3/4 " ain't stopping me , it can be 3 feet, I'm not looking to swap my motor. Do all the 1/2 ton swaps you want. Like that is hard or something. Why not drop a v8 caterpillar and a fuller 18 speed while you're at it
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
I love these pipe dream threads. I think last year someone was hell bent on doing the 5.0 coyote swap in theirs which was just a bunch of bs.

From top to bottom the 5.4/5.8 dohc motor is just too wide to fit WITHOUT having to modify or hack up anything then reliability and drive-ability become a big issue. A member here at one point in time had sat a 6.8 SOHC V10 in their MM engine bay but due to having to hack up and modify a fair amount of stuff it just was not worth it to them anymore.

Going to the 5.8 DOHC will turn a very nice collectors car into a race project car.

For the power the 5.8 dohc s/c motor puts out can easily be attained with a forged 4.6 and larger s/c such as a whipple, it's proven. Go big bore with the 5.0 iron boss block and stroker on it (5.3L) then 600-700 with an s/c will be even easier.

There is no reason to re-invent the wheel here when there is no need to. So by all means go start yourself a build thread and cataloging details/pictures of the build.

Oh and the reason why it's never been done is because no one bravely stupid enough to waste all the money just to hit a brick wall and have to throw in the towel.

Hell it would be easier to swap in a sbc LS2/3 motor, slap a turbo on it and still retain the HVAC, brake booster and cowl.
 
RubberCtyRauder said:
Why spend 20k when you can spend half.
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If you buy a car already done....:rolleyes: I am way north 20k in my stroked 4.6 with a twin screw, Or, you could short change a build for the sake of saying that you have a big motor...

I saw this exact thing when I built the motor in my Road King, I added all the extra parts that don't add power or reliability according to the HD wrench that built both mine and my buddies, mine made 13% more HP and TQ and didn't blow up in 10k miles like his, because he short changed the build....... it's always cheaper to build it twice???:confused:

You can build it for less, but you almost always sacrifice something.

Good luck with the build, I would love to see it done.:beer:
 
Spectragod said:
If you buy a car already done....:rolleyes: I am way north 20k in my stroked 4.6 with a twin screw, Or, you could short change a build for the sake of saying that you have a big motor...

I saw this exact thing when I built the motor in my Road King, I added all the extra parts that don't add power or reliability according to the HD wrench that built both mine and my buddies, mine made 13% more HP and TQ and didn't blow up in 10k miles like his, because he short changed the build....... it's always cheaper to build it twice???:confused:

You can build it for less, but you almost always sacrifice something.

Good luck with the build, I would love to see it done.:beer:
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That was a number he threw out and he didn't take into consideration supporting mods for trans, suspension, driveline brakes etc. I bought mine complete and it was cheaper than keeping what I had and adding it into it. Of course I tweaked a few things but didn't have to add a whole lot either. My point was he never included his goal for the car just that he wanted a 5.8..Hp costs money and if he could spend less building the 4.6dohc than fabbing in a 5.8 for the same hp goals because it has been proven to work. I don't care where he spends his money, but he came here for knowledge and we don't have it because there are no current 5.8 swapped maraduers in the membership beause it is alot of work for nothing really gained.
 
As stated, most anything can be done - with sacrafices, compromises, finances and skills.
Most every innovator, doer - does not start by asking questions on internet forums. They read, research, start trying, and either determine it is not worth it, or get it done.
Then this accomplishment surfaces on the internet.
sparker, fastback - don't let anyone type NO into your dreams - get offline and show us how it's done!
But if you're not commited to something like a swap nobody has ever done, don't waste time banging up enthusiast forums about your dreams to violate their cars ;)
 
So my dreams have been shot down and I'm just gonna do a 03 cobra swap. NEW everything already have the list to build an official terminator build. A terminator is a definite respective install for my beautiful SB
 
2008 FORD CROWN VICTORIA POLICE INTERCEPTOR "HELLSPAWN" 5.0 COYOTE POWERED NIGHTSTALK

Being built on a 2011 Police Interceptor with 15k ORIGINAL MILES. We fought hard to get this car. The LAST year made and the mileage is incredible. Basically under factory warranty. The donor car will essentially be stripped to nothing and built from the ground up. New suspension components, brakes and so on. The interior will be all brand new.



The engine is a brand new Ford Racing Coyote crate engine
Getrag MT82 6 Speed Transmission from an 2014 Boss 302 with 2890 miles on it
Completely Unique look inside and out, we aim to make it feel like newer Fords.

Black Demon Pearl Candy paint. It will look black but ethereally dark blood red in the sun.
20" Wheels 295 rears
3.55 Gears
Full exhaust
Leather Wrapped dash with accent stitching
Brushed Black Metal Dash Trim
Ford Brick Red Leather seats
Black interior
Black Carpet
Black suede Headliner
Black Suede A/B/C Pillars
Custom Styled Front Bumper Unique to the car
Custom Styled Rear Bumper Unique to the car
Ambient Lighting
Custom Headlights with LEDs, HIDs and more
Custom Side Markers
Push to Start



More....






Stay Tuned, we are taking our time with this one. World First 5.0 Coyote Powered Vic.
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World First 5.0 Coyote Powered Vic.
 
sparker_1982 said:
So my dreams have been shot down and I'm just gonna do a 03 cobra swap. NEW everything already have the list to build an official terminator build. A terminator is a definite respective install for my beautiful SB
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Really what you will want to do is blend the Terminator motor and parts of the the Marauder motor....
 
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