Health Care, Obama.....

With the passage of this Bill that excludes Congress, the Executive and their staff we now have 2 America's. One for the Political Elite and One for everyonelse.

Having lived through Katrina I do not want Local, State or Federal Gov't having anything to do with my health care. Katrina resulted in large sums of additional money being controlled by Gov't in this region. On average in an area with a population less than 800K we have 1 conviction per week of Public Corruption. I do not want these crooks in charge of my health care.

Gov't serves Gov't.
 
Maybe we could all join Obama in prayer and put our faith in ... . .uh... ..
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Put our faith in his "package"

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Castro is praising this health plan. That should inspire confidence in the system. We will revert back to the 1800's when whiskey was the dominant medicine. Sounds like Soviet Union.
 
Castro is praising this health plan. That should inspire confidence in the system. We will revert back to the 1800's when whiskey was the dominant medicine. Sounds like Soviet Union.

Well, maybe this whole Obamacare deal won't be so bad after all.... ;)------> :drink: ------> :D
 
SOCIALISM is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

-Winston Churchill-
 
SOCIALISM is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.


-Winston Churchill-

Isn't that the truth!

We are headed towards everyone having the same thing...social and economic equity for all*!!
The Democrats nirvana!
What you end up with is the lowest common denominator for all, and the government controlling everything.

*even those who contribute nothing to society.
 
Response from local NJ congressman. You make the call.


On Sunday March 21, 2010, the U.S. House of Representatives passed legislation, with my support, that will make health insurance coverage accessible to all uninsured Americans, provide all those who are currently insured with more security and control over their own health care, lower costs for everyone over the long term, and reduce our national deficit. This law makes history, as the most significant commitment to the quality of life and financial security of all Americans, since the creation of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.



The national conversation about health care reform has been ongoing for nearly a century, since the time of President Theodore Roosevelt. Over the last fourteen months, throughout my district and many others, this legislation has been debated thoroughly in the halls of Congress, at town hall meetings, in boardrooms and around kitchen tables all across America. Virtually every argument for and against this legislation has been carefully considered.



For years, the status-quo has made access to health care increasingly more expensive and unattainable for many American families, individuals, and businesses. Health insurance has become so unaffordable for so many, that now more than 36 million Americans are uninsured, and many more are sadly joining those ranks daily. Last year, half of Americans postponed or skipped medical care because they simply could not afford it. Unforeseen medical bills caused 62% of all bankruptcies in our country. This should never happen in the United States of America, and this new law will make sure that it never does again.



There have been many myths and misrepresentations that have circulated about this legislation. Here are the facts:



Seniors have been particularly concerned about health care reform -- they have nothing to worry about. Here is why:



o This law will not reduce Medicare benefits. In fact, in endorsing the legislation, the AARP confirmed that the bill "protects and strengthens guaranteed benefits in Medicare" and "improves efforts to crack down on fraud and waste in Medicare, strengthening the program for today's and future generations of seniors."

o The Medicare Trust Fund, which is currently projected to run out of money by 2017, will be extended at least through 2026.

o Immediately after enactment, seniors who fall into the "Donut Hole" will receive a $250 rebate. Starting in 2011, seniors will receive a 50% discount on all brand-name drugs for those in the Donut Hole. By 2020, the Donut Hole will be eliminated entirely!

o Seniors will also benefit from better chronic care, with doctors working together to provide patient-centered help for the 80% of older Americans who have at least one chronic medical condition, like high blood pressure, or diabetes.

o The new law will also increase Medicare payments to doctors for primary care, protecting access to these vital services for seniors.

o Finally, it will encourage reimbursing health care providers based on the quality of health care, rather than its quantity, taking away incentives to subject seniors to procedures and tests they do not need.



Under this law, no federal money will be provided to fund abortion, cover illegal immigrants, ration health care, or deny portability. There is nothing in this act that will force you to change the insurance or the doctor you have now. Given the savings produced by this law, it will not add to the deficit, but will, in fact -- according to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office -- reduce the deficit by $138 billion in the first ten years after its enactment, and save an additional $1.2 trillion in the second 10 years!



In addition, several other very important provisions will take effect immediately:



o They will allow for immediate access to health insurance coverage, without discrimination, for children with pre-existing conditions.

o Provide coverage, through a temporary high-risk pool for adult Americans with pre-existing conditions, until 2014 when the Health Insurance Exchanges (the "Exchanges") are fully operational.

o Place a ban on lifetime limits and restrictive annual limits on coverage that currently force people into bankruptcy when they suffer from a severe chronic illness or experience a catastrophic injury.

o Allow young people to remain on their parents' insurance policies until their 26th birthday.

o Provide tax credits to small businesses to make employee coverage more affordable.

o Require insurance companies to spend at least 80% of premium dollars on medical services, rather than on executives' paychecks or marketing.




Over the next few years, the remainder of the law will go into effect:


o Insurance companies will be banned from denying coverage of any pre-existing conditions.

o Health Insurance Exchanges will be created in each state: marketplaces where uninsured Americans and small businesses will be able to shop for quality, affordable, private health insurance. Those who previously purchased their insurance directly, or those who had no insurance, will now have access to greater choices of policies, at lower costs given the expanded pool of insured individuals. Members of Congress and their staff will be required to obtain health insurance through the same Exchanges.

o Consumers will be able to purchase out-of-state plans, while retaining the protections of their home state's insurance regulations.

o Middle class Americans with annual incomes below $88,200 for a family of four, or individuals making less than $43,320 will receive tax credits to help them afford insurance premiums and out-of-pocket medical costs. This amounts to the biggest middle class tax cut for individuals, families, and small businesses for health care in U.S. history!

o Small businesses with less than 100 employees will also be able to join the Exchanges, benefiting from group rates, lower costs and a greater choice of insurers. Small businesses with 25 employees or less, with wages of less than $50,000 per employee, will qualify for tax credits of up to 50% of the costs of providing health insurance to their employees. Sole proprietors will be able to deduct the full cost of their own health insurance. Small businesses will be able to pay less for their employees' insurance policies, and thereby free vital capital to invest in hiring new employees.



From the very beginning, one of my goals has been to make certain that the "best and the brightest" continue to pursue the field of medicine. That is why I was so pleased that this legislation invests in the high quality training of more primary care doctors, nurses, and health care professionals, and increases payments to primary care doctors under Medicare and Medicaid. In addition, each state will be provided with monies to develop and implement systems to reduce frivolous law suits and the practice of "defensive" medicine. More can and should be done with tort reform, but this was an important first step toward these goals.



That is why more than 325 organizations, representing millions of Americans, have endorsed this bill, including the AARP, the American Medical Association, the American College of Physicians, the American Nurses Association, the American Cancer Society, the Main Street Alliance, the Consumer Federation of America, 59,000 Catholic nuns, the National Catholic Reporter, the Catholic Health Care Association, the Lutheran Health Network, the United Methodist Church, the Eastern Diocese of the Armenian Church, the AFL-CIO, the American Heart Association, the Children's Defense Fund, the National Association of Children's Hospitals, and the League of Women Voters, among many others.



I made the decision to vote in favor of this legislation only after spending hundreds of hours in meetings and hearings, poring over every proposal for reform, meeting with members of the health care industry, hearing the opinions of my constituents in the fourteen town hall meetings that I hosted, reading thousands of their letters and emails, and talking with them on the phone and throughout my district. I am confident that this law will make marked improvements in the lives of my constituents, and will begin to correct the problems in our present system that cause so much waste, heartache and tragedy for so many Americans.






Sincerely,

Mr X
Member of Congress :
 
WOW!! started reading that thing and gave up after the 5th line.

Response from local NJ congressman. You make the call.


On Sunday March 21, 2010, the U.S. House of Representatives passed legislation, with my support, that will make health insurance coverage accessible to all uninsured Americans, provide all those who are currently insured with more security and control over their own health care, lower costs for everyone over the long term, and reduce our national deficit. This law makes history, as the most significant commitment to the quality of life and financial security of all Americans, since the creation of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.



The national conversation about health care reform has been ongoing for nearly a century, since the time of President Theodore Roosevelt. Over the last fourteen months, throughout my district and many others, this legislation has been debated thoroughly in the halls of Congress, at town hall meetings, in boardrooms and around kitchen tables all across America. Virtually every argument for and against this legislation has been carefully considered.



For years, the status-quo has made access to health care increasingly more expensive and unattainable for many American families, individuals, and businesses. Health insurance has become so unaffordable for so many, that now more than 36 million Americans are uninsured, and many more are sadly joining those ranks daily. Last year, half of Americans postponed or skipped medical care because they simply could not afford it. Unforeseen medical bills caused 62% of all bankruptcies in our country. This should never happen in the United States of America, and this new law will make sure that it never does again.



There have been many myths and misrepresentations that have circulated about this legislation. Here are the facts:



Seniors have been particularly concerned about health care reform -- they have nothing to worry about. Here is why:



o This law will not reduce Medicare benefits. In fact, in endorsing the legislation, the AARP confirmed that the bill "protects and strengthens guaranteed benefits in Medicare" and "improves efforts to crack down on fraud and waste in Medicare, strengthening the program for today's and future generations of seniors."

o The Medicare Trust Fund, which is currently projected to run out of money by 2017, will be extended at least through 2026.

o Immediately after enactment, seniors who fall into the "Donut Hole" will receive a $250 rebate. Starting in 2011, seniors will receive a 50% discount on all brand-name drugs for those in the Donut Hole. By 2020, the Donut Hole will be eliminated entirely!

o Seniors will also benefit from better chronic care, with doctors working together to provide patient-centered help for the 80% of older Americans who have at least one chronic medical condition, like high blood pressure, or diabetes.

o The new law will also increase Medicare payments to doctors for primary care, protecting access to these vital services for seniors.

o Finally, it will encourage reimbursing health care providers based on the quality of health care, rather than its quantity, taking away incentives to subject seniors to procedures and tests they do not need.



Under this law, no federal money will be provided to fund abortion, cover illegal immigrants, ration health care, or deny portability. There is nothing in this act that will force you to change the insurance or the doctor you have now. Given the savings produced by this law, it will not add to the deficit, but will, in fact -- according to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office -- reduce the deficit by $138 billion in the first ten years after its enactment, and save an additional $1.2 trillion in the second 10 years!



In addition, several other very important provisions will take effect immediately:



o They will allow for immediate access to health insurance coverage, without discrimination, for children with pre-existing conditions.

o Provide coverage, through a temporary high-risk pool for adult Americans with pre-existing conditions, until 2014 when the Health Insurance Exchanges (the "Exchanges") are fully operational.

o Place a ban on lifetime limits and restrictive annual limits on coverage that currently force people into bankruptcy when they suffer from a severe chronic illness or experience a catastrophic injury.

o Allow young people to remain on their parents' insurance policies until their 26th birthday.

o Provide tax credits to small businesses to make employee coverage more affordable.

o Require insurance companies to spend at least 80% of premium dollars on medical services, rather than on executives' paychecks or marketing.




Over the next few years, the remainder of the law will go into effect:


o Insurance companies will be banned from denying coverage of any pre-existing conditions.

o Health Insurance Exchanges will be created in each state: marketplaces where uninsured Americans and small businesses will be able to shop for quality, affordable, private health insurance. Those who previously purchased their insurance directly, or those who had no insurance, will now have access to greater choices of policies, at lower costs given the expanded pool of insured individuals. Members of Congress and their staff will be required to obtain health insurance through the same Exchanges.

o Consumers will be able to purchase out-of-state plans, while retaining the protections of their home state's insurance regulations.

o Middle class Americans with annual incomes below $88,200 for a family of four, or individuals making less than $43,320 will receive tax credits to help them afford insurance premiums and out-of-pocket medical costs. This amounts to the biggest middle class tax cut for individuals, families, and small businesses for health care in U.S. history!

o Small businesses with less than 100 employees will also be able to join the Exchanges, benefiting from group rates, lower costs and a greater choice of insurers. Small businesses with 25 employees or less, with wages of less than $50,000 per employee, will qualify for tax credits of up to 50% of the costs of providing health insurance to their employees. Sole proprietors will be able to deduct the full cost of their own health insurance. Small businesses will be able to pay less for their employees' insurance policies, and thereby free vital capital to invest in hiring new employees.



From the very beginning, one of my goals has been to make certain that the "best and the brightest" continue to pursue the field of medicine. That is why I was so pleased that this legislation invests in the high quality training of more primary care doctors, nurses, and health care professionals, and increases payments to primary care doctors under Medicare and Medicaid. In addition, each state will be provided with monies to develop and implement systems to reduce frivolous law suits and the practice of "defensive" medicine. More can and should be done with tort reform, but this was an important first step toward these goals.



That is why more than 325 organizations, representing millions of Americans, have endorsed this bill, including the AARP, the American Medical Association, the American College of Physicians, the American Nurses Association, the American Cancer Society, the Main Street Alliance, the Consumer Federation of America, 59,000 Catholic nuns, the National Catholic Reporter, the Catholic Health Care Association, the Lutheran Health Network, the United Methodist Church, the Eastern Diocese of the Armenian Church, the AFL-CIO, the American Heart Association, the Children's Defense Fund, the National Association of Children's Hospitals, and the League of Women Voters, among many others.



I made the decision to vote in favor of this legislation only after spending hundreds of hours in meetings and hearings, poring over every proposal for reform, meeting with members of the health care industry, hearing the opinions of my constituents in the fourteen town hall meetings that I hosted, reading thousands of their letters and emails, and talking with them on the phone and throughout my district. I am confident that this law will make marked improvements in the lives of my constituents, and will begin to correct the problems in our present system that cause so much waste, heartache and tragedy for so many Americans.






Sincerely,

Mr X
Member of Congress :
 
This bill includes NOTHING about cost! (unless I've read wrong.)

It's like a car salesman told me once...

"So, you want a newer/nicer car, AND a lower payment?.....hahahaha"

Yeah. We're going to get this awesome new health care, at a lower cost!

riiiight.
 
Response from local NJ congressman. You make the call.
Sincerely,

Mr X
Member of Congress :

Why would I believe anything from a guy who signs his name as "Mr. X, Member of Congress" ??? :rolleyes:

What no mention of the provision that kicks in in 2012 that says "Medicare payments will be reduced for preventable re-hospitalizations"? Who decides what is preventable? Who decides how much payment is reduced? Who pays the difference? This smacks of care rationing through increased cost to the patient.

The statement about federal funds for abortion is an outright lie. The Hyde Amendment was not approved nor incorporated into the final version of the law. President Obama said that he would sign an Executive Order that makes it so. Unfortunately, no Executive Order can trump the Law. So, unless the current Law is amended, abortions can be federally funded. Looks like some of those holdouts got duped into saying Yes on a flakey promise. Of course, the worthless Executive Order hasn't been signed either. :rolleyes:

There are alot of good things that this bill will address. Too bad that there are also a bunch of things that will just be waiting to bite the unsuspecting public in the ass a few years from now.
 
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Our representatives in NJ all sign their names with an X as they are all on the take. This way its impossible to trace which numbnut signed what.
 
Our Gov't continues to knowingly Budget our economic collapse.
"That level of debt is extremely problematic, particularly given the upward debt path beyond the 10-year budget window," said Maya MacGuineas, president of the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
"The proposed budget is woefully insufficient to achieve the president's goal or the important fiscal goal of stabilizing the debt at a reasonable level in the medium and long term," Ms. MacGuineas said.
For the 2016-20 period, CBO estimates that deficits will average more than 5 percent of GDP, even while assuming the economy will be near full employment, with an average jobless rate of 5 percent during that same five-year period.
"Deficits in the, let's say, 5 percent of GDP range would lead to rising debt-to-GDP ratios in a manner that would ultimately not be sustainable," Mr. Orszag, the President's OMB Director, acknowledged to reporters on March 20, 2009, two months after the administration entered office.
D. Elmendorf, CBO Director, appointed by the current Congress, - In speaking about 2009 "Federal Debt held by the public will equal about 60% of GDP by the end of this fiscal year, the highest level since the early 1950's. As a result, further large deficits and increases in the debt will raise serious economic risks."
Former Tres Sec Rubin, appointed by Pres Clinton, states - "The United States faces projected 10-year federal budget deficits that seriously threaten its bond market, exchange rate, economy, and the economic future of every American worker and family. " -"The commission also found that no economy anywhere in the world had been successful with largely state-directed activities and high walls against global integration.
The evidence, in other words, strongly suggests that a market-based model is still the best way forward. ", (Rubin wrote in NewsWeek, 12-29-09)

Originally published 04:00 a.m., March 26, 2010, updated 06:51 a.m., March 27, 2010
WASHINGTON TIMES
CBO report: Debt will rise to 90% of GDP


David M. Dickson
President Obama's fiscal 2011 budget will generate nearly $10 trillion in cumulative budget deficits over the next 10 years, $1.2 trillion more than the administration projected, and raise the federal debt to 90 percent of the nation's economic output by 2020, the Congressional Budget Office reported Thursday.
In its 2011 budget, which the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) released Feb. 1, the administration projected a 10-year deficit total of $8.53 trillion. After looking it over, CBO said in its final analysis, released Thursday, that the president's budget would generate a combined $9.75 trillion in deficits over the next decade.
"An additional $1.2 trillion in debt dumped on [GDP] to our children makes a huge difference," said Brian Riedl, a budget analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation. "That represents an additional debt of $10,000 per household above and beyond the federal debt they are already carrying."
The federal public debt, which was $6.3 trillion ($56,000 per household) when Mr. Obama entered office amid an economic crisis, totals $8.2 trillion ($72,000 per household) today, and it's headed toward $20.3 trillion (more than $170,000 per household) in 2020, according to CBO's deficit estimates.
That figure would equal 90 percent of the estimated gross domestic product in 2020, up from 40 percent at the end of fiscal 2008. By comparison, America's debt-to-GDP ratio peaked at 109 percent at the end of World War II, while the ratio for economically troubled Greece hit 115 percent last year.
"That level of debt is extremely problematic, particularly given the upward debt path beyond the 10-year budget window," said Maya MacGuineas, president of the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
For countries with debt-to-GDP ratios "above 90 percent, median growth rates fall by 1 percent, and average growth falls considerably more," according to a recent research paper by economists Kenneth S. Rogoff of Harvard and Carmen M. Reinhart of the University of Maryland.
CBO projected the 2011 deficit will be $1.34 trillion, not much different from the administration's estimate of $1.27 trillion. However, CBO's estimate of the 2020 deficit at $1.25 trillion significantly exceeds the administration's $1 trillion estimate.
"The biggest part of the deficit difference is lower tax revenue due to the different economic assumptions," said James R. Horney, a federal-budget analyst at the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. "The administration assumes GDP and incomes will be higher, and that translates into higher revenues than CBO expects. Relatively small differences in economic assumptions can add up to big differences over 10 years."
While Ms. MacGuineas agreed that "economic forecasts have a large impact on budgetary projections," she cautioned that such differing assumptions, often called the "rosy scenario," could account for just $350 billion of the 10-year, $1.2 trillion difference between the White House and CBO.
The president has established a fiscal commission to propose actions to reach his goal of balancing the budget by 2015, except for net interest payments, which CBO projects to total $520 billion that year. The president's budget, however, will generate a $793 billion deficit in 2015, according to CBO.
"The proposed budget is woefully insufficient to achieve the president's goal or the important fiscal goal of stabilizing the debt at a reasonable level in the medium and long term," Ms. MacGuineas said.
The CBO and the administration expect the deficit for fiscal 2010, which ends Sept. 30, to approximate $1.5 trillion and exceed 10 percent of GDP, the first time that threshold will have been reached since World War II. Before last year's deficit reached an eye-popping 9.9 percent of GDP, the biggest postwar deficit was 6 percent of GDP in fiscal 1983.
In addition to the free-spending fiscal policy the U.S. government will pursue, monetary policy will remain loose in the near term, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke told a congressional committee Thursday.
Citing still-fragile economic conditions and noting the low level of inflation, Mr. Bernanke told the House Financial Services Committee that the Fed would maintain historically low short-term interest rates for the time being.
Tightening would not begin until the "expansion matures," he said, though he did not provide a specific timetable for ratcheting up interest rates.
Indicative of the economy's ongoing fragility, especially in the labor market, was the fact that first-time claims for unemployment benefits were still a relatively high 442,000 last week, the Labor Department reported Thursday. The number was a decline of 14,000 over the previous week's seasonally adjusted number.
Economists disagree over the propriety of running a $1.5 trillion deficit this year as the economy shifts into recovery mode. But they generally agree that budget deficits should proceed along a consistent, downward path as the expansion matures. Most economists, therefore, fear the prospect of rising deficits in the latter part of this decade, long after steady economic growth has returned and unemployment has plunged.
In a worrisome development, CBO projects that federal budget deficits, after dropping sharply, then will begin to rise continuously from 4.1 percent of GDP in 2014 to 5.6 percent in 2020.
For the 2016-20 period, CBO estimates that deficits will average more than 5 percent of GDP, even while assuming the economy will be near full employment, with an average jobless rate of 5 percent during that same five-year period.
One economist concerned about unsustainable fiscal policy in the out years is OMB Director Peter R. Orszag.
"Deficits in the, let's say, 5 percent of GDP range would lead to rising debt-to-GDP ratios in a manner that would ultimately not be sustainable," Mr. Orszag acknowledged to reporters on March 20, 2009, two months after the administration entered office.
 
Had this in my mail this morning from a friend still not sure if it is a joke or not

A Lay-off letter from an excellent boss!


Dear Employees:

As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that
Barrack Obama is our President and that our taxes and government fees will
increase in a BIG way.

To compensate for these increases, our prices would have to increase by
about 10%. But since we cannot increase our prices right now due to the
dismal state of the economy, we will have to lay off sixty of our employees
instead.

This has really been bothering me since I believe we are family here and I
didn't know how to choose who would have to go.

So, this is what I did. I walked through our parking lot and found sixty
'Obama' bumper stickers on our employees' cars and have decided these folks
will be the ones to let go. I can't think of a more fair way to approach
this problem. They voted for change...... I gave it to them.

I will see the rest of you at the annual company picnic..


THE BOSS
 
I mean come on people. What has happened to the America of the 1950's and 1960's. Where we pay for a great free country with hard work. Everybody does as much as they can for themselves. No one just waits for a check to come in the mail or waits on somebody else to do everything for them. I mean these days I work hard for my money of which half of it gets taken from me. So then on the weekends when I hang out in a parking lot talking to 3 other car enthusiast about cars I get run off by Cobb County (GESTAPO) POLICE in the name of public safety. With the explanation that a gathering of people in a parking lot frightens the tax payers. I mean WTF any of us there had paid more in taxes that year than the cop made. I'm scared for the future for this once great country.
 
Frist Friday of the month a town nearby has a block party. They close off 1 street and cars park, cruise in style. Band, BBQ, etc.
Last nite they posted rules, only classic cars, defined as over 20 years old.

Last year I called and they said please bring the MM, it is a draw.

This year a City Police Officer write his badge # on the rules and "do not bring this car back" and he writes down my plate number. He did the same for 8 other cars.

They have old MG and Mercedes. Since when have they been considered "classic"?

Under what authority does the POLICE have to tell me I can't bring my car to a public event?

WELCOME TO AMERIKA! LAND OF THE ENSLAVED AND HOME OF THE OPRESSORS!
 
It's funny, as many people as I ask, they don't like this bill or even know what it is:confused: Why didn't the American people get to vote on this "HISTORIC" bill?:censor:.........:bs:
 
Frist Friday of the month a town nearby has a block party. They close off 1 street and cars park, cruise in style. Band, BBQ, etc.
Last nite they posted rules, only classic cars, defined as over 20 years old.

Last year I called and they said please bring the MM, it is a draw.

This year a City Police Officer write his badge # on the rules and "do not bring this car back" and he writes down my plate number. He did the same for 8 other cars.

They have old MG and Mercedes. Since when have they been considered "classic"?

Under what authority does the POLICE have to tell me I can't bring my car to a public event?

WELCOME TO AMERIKA! LAND OF THE ENSLAVED AND HOME OF THE OPRESSORS!


Fight the power!
 
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