ls1 camaro vs 03 mm

That's why I was puzzled on how close I was. But no that's is it ls1 vs mm I'll make sure to record it next time hopefully I won't be so stock
 
MrBluGruv said:
I'm thinking there is more to this story than simply LS1 VS Marauder. It doesn't feel right....
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I do remember, right after I put my JLT on I went to the track. Raced an ls1 camaro. I got out of the hole faster and he was at my door the entire way. I ran 14.3 @ 97 and he ran 14.5 and I was asking him what he usually runs. He said the best he had was a 14.0 but usually runs 14.5ish. Moral of the story, he was a bad driver, go race him ;)
 
Not sure but 98 or 99 to 96 f body was 305hp and newer was 345 hp. So with a 305 hp and bad driver I could see head to head but no better
 
This is a funny thread! a 4400 pound car with very little horse power is far from a fast car! as much as i love my mm, i love it for what it is a great cruiser! mod it all you like, its still 4400lbs!
and just because you get a camaro by a car , you didnt win, you got sandbaged!, until money comes into play!
did that a million and one times racing mustangs in my grandnational!
 
slickster said:
Not sure but 98 or 99 to 96 f body was 305hp and newer was 345 hp. So with a 305 hp and bad driver I could see head to head but no better
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Stock LS1s starting in '98 were rated around 305HP, and in 2001 they were bumped to 315 and 325 for the SS package (I believe they said that came from the ram-air scoop). The 345HP option was an SLP factory option (I know this as my '02 has this option and a build sheet from SLP to back it up). In reality, pretty much every '01-'02 LS1 F-Body made the same power from the factory, the Z28 and SS distinctions meant almost nothing but appearance differences as they were all putting down pretty much the same power and ET numbers. The real difference in power came from the switch in '01 as they reworked some of the emissions garbage, but even then we aren't talking about a terrible lot of difference, at least not that I've seen.

Before '98 all 4th-gen F-Bodies had an LT1 engine, which was rated at a fair bit less power, but still posted ETs faster than even most moderately modded Marauders.

I'm not at all saying it didn't happen, but I'm thinking that this is not as simple as running across an LS1 F-Body, racing him and only losing by half a car. And yes, an LS1-powered F-Body turning a 14.5 is ridiculous. I've heard first-time drivers posting better times than that. Those numbers are right on par with an LT1 F-Body though.

Also, while this doesn't translate to much in the street (winning is winning yada yada), keep in mind that if you got the jump on him first, he actually pulled you by like a car length as he made up that distance difference AND THEN pulled ahead still. And if this was to like 60-70mph, he actually yanked you pretty good, cause you aren't even close to 1/4 distance from a dig at that point and if it was a roll then you barely ran at all.

Like I said, too many things out in the open to gauge this well still...


Also, if you are talking strictly roll-racing here, that's a bad reason to switch out a 4.10 rear gear. The only sizable difference is gonna be from a dig, for whatever reason from a roll a 3.55 Marauder is going to be pretty comparable to nearly identical to a 4.10 Marauder. If you really want to make this beast go fast, do what every other smart Ford Modular engine owner does and boost it.


At this point though, your best bet is to hope that that SS has the same problems with traction that mine does if you want to beat him. :P
 
motown marauder said:
This is a funny thread! a 4400 pound car with very little horse power is far from a fast car! as much as i love my mm, i love it for what it is a great cruiser! mod it all you like, its still 4400lbs!
and just because you get a camaro by a car , you didnt win, you got sandbaged!, until money comes into play!
did that a million and one times racing mustangs in my grandnational!
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You're one of the guys that came to Chicago back in the mid 80's and went home with BIG MONEY running the Stangs here. But I totally agree with you on this matter. Some people don't know when they're getting the shaft, "I lost but I was close". Is there going to be money involved next time????
 
bigmerc281 said:
That's why I was puzzled on how close I was. But no that's is it ls1 vs mm I'll make sure to record it next time hopefully I won't be so stock
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Did you at least get the chicks name and find out how long she's had her learners permit? :dunno:
 
LANDY said:
No n/a marauder has a chance against a ls1 camaro. That's it.
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I took out one at our private track meet a few years back and one at MV-5 on my way to the mall. ;)
In some magazines I've seen anywhere from 13.8-14.0 in the 1/4. A stock Marauder wont hang, but factor in some mods along with gears and a convertor and the Camaro owner will be in for a big shocker.
 
Blackened300a said:
I took out one at our private track meet a few years back and one at MV-5 on my way to the mall. ;)
In some magazines I've seen anywhere from 13.8-14.0 in the 1/4. A stock Marauder wont hang, but factor in some mods along with gears and a convertor and the Camaro owner will be in for a big shocker.
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Im thinking he was a bad driver, my buddy's 99 ls1 M6 stock does low 13's trapping over 100mph all night long at 80* weather on street tires but he can drive that thing good and powershifts every gear.
 
The n/a 4.6 has no problems taking down LS1 camaros and LS2 GTOs... all while only making 312 rwhp. I even got banned from the GTO forums for posting a timeslip of me vs one of the moderators...

Unfortunately, this was in the mach1, which weighs ~1300 lbs less than the marauder, has 4.30 gears and 26" sticky tires.

And bad drivers are everywhere... I've seen C6 z06s run mid-high 12s and early viper owners running high 13s...
 
I have a 00' Camaro 6 spd convert. and an 03 mm, stock you need more power, if the ls1 has just a gear like 3:73 you'll need a lot more. With headers tune an S60 3:73 read end and some other little goodies, I'm hanging with new vettes and I have 137k on the orig motor!
 
I've seen stock LS1 Camaros come out and run low 13's all day on street tires at the track


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Holy old thread.

Yes you can beat an LS1 with an N/A Marauder. It's not the car, it's the driver. You can beat the odds if you have the skills. Plus it helps to stay off of the track were the ground is well prepped and most cars are well funded.

Oh sorry, should not have said that.

If I could beat an SRT8 Charger with a stock Chevy HHR, like I did out west on 405, someone can beat an LS1 with a N/A Marauder. Again, drivers race.
 
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