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Tom for a minute I thought you were talking about me but I don't smoke cigars or wear bib-overhauls. That was close. lol
 
MMBLUE said:
True, very true. For instance Steve, after quietly looking and having many people contact me about the sale of their MM to me as in my thread. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=77085 I have found a price that I would pay for your car. Of course, it is what the market will bring, hence supply and demand. It is however a bit more than our previous discussions. Yet these others of which I speak of, have the S/C already installed and operational. I say to you, if your actually willing and ready to sell, I have an offer for your MM. Realisticly, it is worth to a person what a person is willing to pay. So if you wish to entertain my offer, send me a PM or an email.

As far as the topic of discussion, you bring up a good point, but we really don't have control of the thousands of beat to hell MM's out there.

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No offense to you but your offer as well as others is the reasons my car will stay with me. People looking to buy a turn key supercharged car on the cheap is :bs:, I wish you good luck, try and do it yourself for the $ your offering :lol:. I feel bad for the people that need to sell the market full of broke ass buyers
 
Shaijack said:
Darn Rex I need to listen to you more. You bees smart. Sell Marauder, you will burn in hell for that. Trade Marauder you will do worst than burn in hell. You will marry a ugly woman that can't cook and don't want sex. She will have her family move in with you after they quit their jobs and you have to support them.
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Do I at least get a chance to pick two out of the three? :o ----> ;) --->:D
 
I'm not sure about all this......if somebody wants something bad enough they will pay "to a point that is ". A gentleman offered me what I considered allot of money for mine but I had no intention of selling what so ever but he kept insisting on a sell.:confused: He was a German guy and actually bout a 1981 datsun 200zxs from me cash in his pocket and was insisting on the mm. Oh well not selling. ;)
 
ntd said:
No offense to you but your offer as well as others is the reasons my car will stay with me. People looking to buy a turn key supercharged car on the cheap is :bs:, I wish you good luck, try and do it yourself for the $ your offering :lol:. I feel bad for the people that need to sell the market full of broke ass buyers
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No offense taken. I actually was really close to just pulling the trigger on your car. I infact, like yours the best with the hair dryer version S/C. I was disappointed when you took her or sold her off the market. I'm just not that excited about owning another Black MM. Had a Blue for over 2 years and this black one for over 4 years as DD's. The next one I get will be a fun cruser and weekend cruzer not the DD. I'll leave that up to the my current Blk MM. Let me know if you decide to put her back up. :burnout:


As for the pricing of all our MM's like I said before, it's what the buyer is willing to pay and how bad they want it of course. Keep in mind, it's hard for a MAJORITY of people to just cough up 15-20K. As banks won't give you a loan on a car that old. Unless you the seller have financing available, private sellers unfortunately have it the hardest to sell a car to a private party.
 
This is a very interesting topic. I've watched over the years as our MM's have been sold at some very low prices. It does disappoint me to see this.

I have a question for the group. Does anyone have collector insurance on their Marauder? I do. If so, what value have you determined it is worth? I'll let you know mine is valued at 25K. I dare someone to total it on me. I'll be pissed as all hell but at least I'll almost get what I paid for it when it was new. Collector insurance has some limits like what mileage I can put on her/year. She is not my DD so this is not a problem.

I hope the Marauder holds it's value and only goes UP in value.
 
sweetair said:
This is a very interesting topic. I've watched over the years as our MM's have been sold at some very low prices. It does disappoint me to see this.

I have a question for the group. Does anyone have collector insurance on their Marauder? I do. If so, what value have you determined it is worth? I'll let you know mine is valued at 25K. I dare someone to total it on me. I'll be pissed as all hell but at least I'll almost get what I paid for it when it was new. Collector insurance has some limits like what mileage I can put on her/year. She is not my DD so this is not a problem.

I hope the Marauder holds it's value and only goes UP in value.
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Never really looked into collector insurance how much do you pay if you don't mind me asking and who are you using?
 
Auto owners. Defined value policy supported by appraisal. It helps to have several other cars insured with them simultaneously, a clean driving record, no at fault claims and maybe a friendly agent.
 
Good point on the 'no trade up' aspect. That's it folks this was the last body on frame car. Nothing new will come out. Try doubling or tripling your torque in a unibody and you'll end up with modern art. This design has it's advatages.

Marauders are end of the road for KISS. Totally inelastic supply.
 
sweetair said:
This is a very interesting topic. I've watched over the years as our MM's have been sold at some very low prices. It does disappoint me to see this.

I have a question for the group. Does anyone have collector insurance on their Marauder? I do. If so, what value have you determined it is worth? I'll let you know mine is valued at 25K. I dare someone to total it on me. I'll be pissed as all hell but at least I'll almost get what I paid for it when it was new. Collector insurance has some limits like what mileage I can put on her/year. She is not my DD so this is not a problem.

I hope the Marauder holds it's value and only goes UP in value.
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Good one, I'm going to talk with my agent about this "see how mutch".:)
 
I just plugged in KBB Private seller value on the 2004 has 119500 and it claims less than 10 grand excellent condition.
Since I just spent almost half of that on a new paint job, I guess I'll keep her a little while yet.:P
 
SC Cheesehead said:
So, if we all band together and start saying our cars are worth at least $20,000, they'll start selling for that, right? :rolleyes:

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When people start knocking down our doors to get at the cars, maybe selling prices will start to climb, until then, see above.

"Economics? 'Supply and Demand.' That's it." - Father Guido Sarducci
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Can you re-do the curve? Our economics reflect a fixed to declining-only supply curve. Like land they ain't makin' any mo mm's. The price curve would reflect our historical reality that over the first, say, 10 to 15 years, the daily driver value of an MM drops in the face of new technology. Maybe we are there now. That would infer a declining Price curve with a floor at some point when collector status overtakes daily driver value.

Since price is a derivative, not an input, can we make the value go up sooner if each of us buys another MM and we hoard them for a while? Where's Shaijack when we need him?
 
BUCKWHEAT said:
Can you re-do the curve? Our economics reflect a fixed to declining-only supply curve. Like land they ain't makin' any mo mm's. The price curve would reflect our historical reality that over the first, say, 10 to 15 years, the daily driver value of an MM drops in the face of new technology. Maybe we are there now. That would infer a declining Price curve with a floor at some point when collector status overtakes daily driver value.

Since price is a derivative, not an input, can we make the value go up sooner if each of us buys another MM and we hoard them for a while? Where's Shaijack when we need him?
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That's a standard supply and demand model, the intersection point will move depending on changes in shifts along either of the curves. Your points on MM economics are spot on. As an earlier poster noted (and as you have supported with your "land" comparison) is the MM supply is inelastic; but at this point in time, demand is not high enough to drive the convergent point further along the price (value) axis. At some point in the future our cars may acquire collector status, at which point economic theory suggests they will command (and receive) a higher selling price; but we ain't there yet.

Once again, the dynamic of opportunity cost will drive transactions. Sellers will hold out until the cash/goods offered in exchange for their cars exceed the second alternative (i.e. hold onto the car).

Buyer will pay asking price because perceived value of owning a Marauder exceeds his/her second alternative (holding onto the cash, or using it to purchase something else).

LOL on Shaijack. :D Maybe he and a couple other folks can buy up all existing inventory of Marauders and become a cartel to control future pricing... ;) ------> :D
 
I think some of these will hold value depending upon mods installed.

I do not believe a stock vehicle is better than a modded one for value.
 
Just food for thought. For people looking to finance any car that typical banks won't finance. There are collector car finance companies out there. One that I worked with is Woodside Credit. I used their services while almost buying a Saleen from a private owner summer of 2011. And at a rate of only 3.7% for a used car.

There's options for people. Most don't want to do any leg work.


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