Valve stem caps = Ford Rip off
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bigslim
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Only the ones with foriegn cars.metroplex said:The UAW has fancy offices and prohibits US Marines from parking there
jgc61sr2002
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I put my originals away and bought a chrome set from a local parts store for under two bucks.
ezratty
Member
jeez, it's just freaking valve caps - didn't intend to start a union war - i paid it because i wanted it all original. The dealer didn't put a gun to my head.
My current gripe is that the new cap is slightly different from the originals
and there is a specific part number for the cap and valve assembly.
My current gripe is that the new cap is slightly different from the originals
and there is a specific part number for the cap and valve assembly.
David Morton
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First, I doubt if it just came off. The day I brought mine home some kid marked my chrome caps off for his bicycle. Next day, two were missing. So I got some locking caps, the kind that has a little screw going into the side, a "spinner" type set of four for ten dollars and haven't lost one of those since.
Second, the valve stem for our car is unique. It's not just a rubber stem with a chrome sleeve jammed on top. The chrome sleeve is made into the stem, hence the high price. IMO the stem for our car is worth $32. Warn the guys when changing the tire and tell them to just replace the valve inside the stem. It's a standard Schroeder (AKA, "Schrader") valve.
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You Cheney-heads started it.
Third, our country had it's greatest period of industrial expansion in the late forties, fifties and early sixties, when unions were at their peak membership and highest adjusted wages. It was a time when union families had two cars in every garage, the wife didn't work and stayed at home with the kids which went to college, and dad took the family out to the marina on the weekends for a day on the boat they had in the slip. Unions built this country because those families had money to spend, save and even squander and that was what was pumping up our economy. Corporations paid 90% income tax with the only loophole being investments in company growth and no way to ship labor overseas because of high import duties.
We became the model for world industrial domination because our unions were strong and the tax code fostored growth.
Since then the so called "conservatives" of the late sixties on to today have dismantled our industrial dominance in exchange for the "campaign contribution" bribes paid to them by lazy international corporate fascists that don't want to work for this countrys' benefit but would rather see a "New World Order" where the democracies that won't allow child labor and insist on a living wage for their people are at a disadvantage to countries where the strongman and despot rule by having children getting their little fingers mangled in worn-out machines, living in ghettos sprawling over a starving population, desperate for any job at any cost, in order to fill the coffers of the corporate elite with blood money. All this happened because capitalism is an amoral system. Not moral, not immoral. It has no morals at all, neither good nor evil, profit is the only concern. BUT...
...evil is easier.
That's why we need regulations on agriculture, commerce and industry. Laws that keep corporations moral. Laws that protect the workers' right to bargain collectively, not scab over their only bargaining chip, the ability to wound a company that has immoral objectives that fall outside the realm of law and hurt working families. Scab over the wound with other less fortunate workers that, given the chance, will do anything to feed their families. "Right-to-work" laws are lies, and hurt all working families.
LONG LIVE TRADE UNIONISM!
LONG LIVE THE UAW!
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Have a nice day!
Second, the valve stem for our car is unique. It's not just a rubber stem with a chrome sleeve jammed on top. The chrome sleeve is made into the stem, hence the high price. IMO the stem for our car is worth $32. Warn the guys when changing the tire and tell them to just replace the valve inside the stem. It's a standard Schroeder (AKA, "Schrader") valve.
{rant mode=on}
You Cheney-heads started it.
Third, our country had it's greatest period of industrial expansion in the late forties, fifties and early sixties, when unions were at their peak membership and highest adjusted wages. It was a time when union families had two cars in every garage, the wife didn't work and stayed at home with the kids which went to college, and dad took the family out to the marina on the weekends for a day on the boat they had in the slip. Unions built this country because those families had money to spend, save and even squander and that was what was pumping up our economy. Corporations paid 90% income tax with the only loophole being investments in company growth and no way to ship labor overseas because of high import duties.
We became the model for world industrial domination because our unions were strong and the tax code fostored growth.
Since then the so called "conservatives" of the late sixties on to today have dismantled our industrial dominance in exchange for the "campaign contribution" bribes paid to them by lazy international corporate fascists that don't want to work for this countrys' benefit but would rather see a "New World Order" where the democracies that won't allow child labor and insist on a living wage for their people are at a disadvantage to countries where the strongman and despot rule by having children getting their little fingers mangled in worn-out machines, living in ghettos sprawling over a starving population, desperate for any job at any cost, in order to fill the coffers of the corporate elite with blood money. All this happened because capitalism is an amoral system. Not moral, not immoral. It has no morals at all, neither good nor evil, profit is the only concern. BUT...
...evil is easier.
That's why we need regulations on agriculture, commerce and industry. Laws that keep corporations moral. Laws that protect the workers' right to bargain collectively, not scab over their only bargaining chip, the ability to wound a company that has immoral objectives that fall outside the realm of law and hurt working families. Scab over the wound with other less fortunate workers that, given the chance, will do anything to feed their families. "Right-to-work" laws are lies, and hurt all working families.
LONG LIVE TRADE UNIONISM!
LONG LIVE THE UAW!
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Have a nice day!
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SergntMac
Shelby GT X2--Back In Black
There's nothing exotic about the valve stems on a Marauder, standard stock issue off the shelf TR413 with chrome jacket supplied by Schrader-Bridgeport, a division of Tomkins International. No reasons to be sentimental about this part either, it's rubber and it will rot. Sooner or later you should replace it, or it may bite you in the azz.
http://www.schrader-bridgeport.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=1341&location_id=2758
Another division of Tompkins also supplies Ford and other OEMs...
http://www.plews-edelmann.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=3062&location_id=3823
http://www.schrader-bridgeport.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=1341&location_id=2758
Another division of Tompkins also supplies Ford and other OEMs...
http://www.plews-edelmann.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=3062&location_id=3823
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David Morton said:First, I doubt if it just came off. The day I brought mine home some kid marked my chrome caps off for his bicycle. Next day, two were missing. So I got some locking caps, the kind that has a little screw going into the side, a "spinner" type set of four for ten dollars and haven't lost one of those since.
Second, the valve stem for our car is unique. It's not just a rubber stem with a chrome sleeve jammed on top. The chrome sleeve is made into the stem, hence the high price. IMO the stem for our car is worth $32. Warn the guys when changing the tire and tell them to just replace the valve inside the stem. It's a standard Schroeder (AKA, "Schrader") valve.
{rant mode=on}
You Cheney-heads started it.
Third, our country had it's greatest period of industrial expansion in the late forties, fifties and early sixties, when unions were at their peak membership and highest adjusted wages. It was a time when union families had two cars in every garage, the wife didn't work and stayed at home with the kids which went to college, and dad took the family out to the marina on the weekends for a day on the boat they had in the slip. Unions built this country because those families had money to spend, save and even squander and that was what was pumping up our economy. Corporations paid 90% income tax with the only loophole being investments in company growth and no way to ship labor overseas because of high import duties.
We became the model for world industrial domination because our unions were strong and the tax code fostored growth.
Since then the so called "conservatives" of the late sixties on to today have dismantled our industrial dominance in exchange for the "campaign contribution" bribes paid to them by lazy international corporate fascists that don't want to work for this countrys' benefit but would rather see a "New World Order" where the democracies that won't allow child labor and insist on a living wage for their people are at a disadvantage to countries where the strongman and despot rule by having children getting their little fingers mangled in worn-out machines, living in ghettos sprawling over a starving population, desperate for any job at any cost, in order to fill the coffers of the corporate elite with blood money. All this happened because capitalism is an amoral system. Not moral, not immoral. It has no morals at all, neither good nor evil, profit is the only concern. BUT...
...evil is easier.
That's why we need regulations on agriculture, commerce and industry. Laws that keep corporations moral. Laws that protect the workers' right to bargain collectively, not scab over their only bargaining chip, the ability to wound a company that has immoral objectives that fall outside the realm of law and hurt working families. Scab over the wound with other less fortunate workers that, given the chance, will do anything to feed their families. "Right-to-work" laws are lies, and hurt all working families.
LONG LIVE TRADE UNIONISM!
LONG LIVE THE UAW!
{rant mode=off}
Have a nice day!
Hey Dave Morton!
Thanks for your post. I couldn't possibly agree with you more. This country is headed for big trouble if it continues in it's current direction. Very scary.
Best,
Paul
very strange...i ordered a new set of four from my dealer at my first service after I bought the car about 2 years ago and is was $8...$32 for one is insane...i actually bought the locking one's and use those because the others would get stolen...i plan on keeping the car for a while so i bought another set just in case...sounds like it was the smart thing to do
Svashtar
Trying to get it right...
My idiot dealer scratched one of the rims when aligning the car, despite my having supplied him with a printout from this site of the steps to avoid scratching them with his Hunter machine.
Anyway, when installing the new rim, unless it came with a valve stem, the new stem has a shorter chrome sleeve on it than the other 3. Didn't notice it for several months though, so not too worried about it.
As to Dennis' post, I have mixed feelings about it, but for the sake of you Union guys won't express all of my opinions. Besides, you're there and I'm not, and I have never been a Union member. (I'm actually not "jealous" about that either.)
I will say that his points about overpaid execs and abysmal marketing tactics and squandered opportunities to improve domestic auto market share are right on IMO. (And the good or evil of Trade Unions aside, I also didn't know that owning a MM meant that I had to worship Ford and agree never to "bash" them!)
I drove a Toyota for 12 years and still sold it for nearly 40% of what I paid for it when it had 160,000 miles on it. I never took it to the dealer once, and it was flawless inside and out. So far I have taken my MM back to the dealer 6 times since 7/04. None for drivetrain issues, which has been great. It has all been fit and finish and accessory operations issues stuff: Exterior paint, fuel guage, radio, wiper/light control module, seat belts, loose moldings and door panels, window operation, etc., etc. In other words, BS little stuff that should either have been installed right or been built right to begin with. Yes, it's 100% covered, but each time I lose up to a half-day of work, and then have to watch like a hawk to see they don't wreck something else while they "fix" the problem.
Why that is so omnipresent with just American cars, well, I have my own ideas, but one of the solutions is not higher pay and guaranteed raises all around.
I plan on keeping my MM for as long as possible, but my next car will definitely not be American. It has nothing to do with patriotism, and everything to do with getting what you pay for.
Norm
Anyway, when installing the new rim, unless it came with a valve stem, the new stem has a shorter chrome sleeve on it than the other 3. Didn't notice it for several months though, so not too worried about it.
As to Dennis' post, I have mixed feelings about it, but for the sake of you Union guys won't express all of my opinions. Besides, you're there and I'm not, and I have never been a Union member. (I'm actually not "jealous" about that either.)
I will say that his points about overpaid execs and abysmal marketing tactics and squandered opportunities to improve domestic auto market share are right on IMO. (And the good or evil of Trade Unions aside, I also didn't know that owning a MM meant that I had to worship Ford and agree never to "bash" them!)
I drove a Toyota for 12 years and still sold it for nearly 40% of what I paid for it when it had 160,000 miles on it. I never took it to the dealer once, and it was flawless inside and out. So far I have taken my MM back to the dealer 6 times since 7/04. None for drivetrain issues, which has been great. It has all been fit and finish and accessory operations issues stuff: Exterior paint, fuel guage, radio, wiper/light control module, seat belts, loose moldings and door panels, window operation, etc., etc. In other words, BS little stuff that should either have been installed right or been built right to begin with. Yes, it's 100% covered, but each time I lose up to a half-day of work, and then have to watch like a hawk to see they don't wreck something else while they "fix" the problem.
Why that is so omnipresent with just American cars, well, I have my own ideas, but one of the solutions is not higher pay and guaranteed raises all around.
I plan on keeping my MM for as long as possible, but my next car will definitely not be American. It has nothing to do with patriotism, and everything to do with getting what you pay for.
Norm
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SergntMac
Shelby GT X2--Back In Black
Well, there may be one more explanation.grimmace said:
Every once in a while, I need some small trim pieces, and my dealer will tell me..."that screw is 2 bucks, comes in packs of four. I'll ge 'em for ya, but I don't stock these...Want the whole bag?"
Maybe 32 bucks was for a bag of valve stems, like maybe 4, and someone in parts kept the change...
