O's Fan Rich
Capital Area Marauder Member
I've benn thinking about this most of the day after reading it this morning.
Now, it's not just this post, I am in n o way picking on txmarauder, but it's the latest in the line of reasoning of the black/bold statement
If i did not already have one i would in a heart beat, the Trilogy IS just too expensive. If you really want to corner the market sell it as a kit with the smaller than the stock trilogy pulley for more hp and to save our hood liners . I still dont understand why Trilogy would sell a kit putting out less hp than other kits then charge you more for the smaller pulley and a retune when they should have just included it in the first place. The pulley is smaller so less material should be less money and they have to burn a tune for the kit anyways so just burn it for the smaller pulley. I love the blower i just dont like the price per hp ratio when a smaller puley and different tune would be sooo much better in the standard kit.
Ok, the Trilogy kit is the more expensiove one. But, what goes into the price? Is it just the hardware? No, if youi simply take the cost of the parts, obviously the price is alot lower.
There is more to building a product for market then just throwing the parts in then marking it up and selling it.
It takes time to engineer it. That takes people too. While your developing it, people need to eat ad pay bills, that means there is an out put of cash for that. It also take facilities, outsourcing, parts good and bad... it's R&D. In any new product there is always R&D costs. There are startup costs, there is over head ( lights, heat, air conditioning, building/facility, telephone, transporation, insurances, payroll, FICA, workers comp costs, etc, etc, etc) legal costs,that go into it, and god knows what else comes up, BEFORE you even have ONE kit sold. On top of that the owner/developer wants to see a profit for his well earned vision and hardwork, ( after all if they did'nt do it who would? one of us? maybe, but we did not.)
You have to factopr warranty costs, and the cost of just doing business, advertising, demos, shows, packaging, the works.
So, that's why things can cost more then we outsiders feel they should.
Then, someone can come along and use the product that was developed and has gone through the refinements, the development stages and is a ready to go proven design and copy it. That person or company who does not have all the time, effort and resources invested into the product can offer it at a lowe cost. He has NOTHING to make up for as hid investiment is minimal, therefoer has a smaller "nut to crack" to show a profit.
That's what the Japenese di for many years, remember? Now they are more progressive, of course. But they took already enginnered products and made them cheaper.
Generic Drugs anyone? Why are they "cheaper"? NO R&D costs, no approval costs, no FDA super scrutiny.
Get it? REAL BUSINESS COSTS MONEY!!
I was raised to not ask, "Why is your product so exoensive?" but to ask "Why is your's so cheap?" You get better answers, in my opinion.
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2003 300A Trilogy #80
Now, it's not just this post, I am in n o way picking on txmarauder, but it's the latest in the line of reasoning of the black/bold statement
If i did not already have one i would in a heart beat, the Trilogy IS just too expensive. If you really want to corner the market sell it as a kit with the smaller than the stock trilogy pulley for more hp and to save our hood liners . I still dont understand why Trilogy would sell a kit putting out less hp than other kits then charge you more for the smaller pulley and a retune when they should have just included it in the first place. The pulley is smaller so less material should be less money and they have to burn a tune for the kit anyways so just burn it for the smaller pulley. I love the blower i just dont like the price per hp ratio when a smaller puley and different tune would be sooo much better in the standard kit.
Ok, the Trilogy kit is the more expensiove one. But, what goes into the price? Is it just the hardware? No, if youi simply take the cost of the parts, obviously the price is alot lower.
There is more to building a product for market then just throwing the parts in then marking it up and selling it.
It takes time to engineer it. That takes people too. While your developing it, people need to eat ad pay bills, that means there is an out put of cash for that. It also take facilities, outsourcing, parts good and bad... it's R&D. In any new product there is always R&D costs. There are startup costs, there is over head ( lights, heat, air conditioning, building/facility, telephone, transporation, insurances, payroll, FICA, workers comp costs, etc, etc, etc) legal costs,that go into it, and god knows what else comes up, BEFORE you even have ONE kit sold. On top of that the owner/developer wants to see a profit for his well earned vision and hardwork, ( after all if they did'nt do it who would? one of us? maybe, but we did not.)
You have to factopr warranty costs, and the cost of just doing business, advertising, demos, shows, packaging, the works.
So, that's why things can cost more then we outsiders feel they should.
Then, someone can come along and use the product that was developed and has gone through the refinements, the development stages and is a ready to go proven design and copy it. That person or company who does not have all the time, effort and resources invested into the product can offer it at a lowe cost. He has NOTHING to make up for as hid investiment is minimal, therefoer has a smaller "nut to crack" to show a profit.
That's what the Japenese di for many years, remember? Now they are more progressive, of course. But they took already enginnered products and made them cheaper.
Generic Drugs anyone? Why are they "cheaper"? NO R&D costs, no approval costs, no FDA super scrutiny.
Get it? REAL BUSINESS COSTS MONEY!!
I was raised to not ask, "Why is your product so exoensive?" but to ask "Why is your's so cheap?" You get better answers, in my opinion.
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2003 300A Trilogy #80