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Guest
I saw that top gear bit.
the background music was by Mogwai. i loved it.
the background music was by Mogwai. i loved it.
TheDude
New member
That does support our local economy. What helps us more. RCA leaving Indianapolis to build TV's in Mexico, or Toyota building Trucks like the Tundra in Texas? Not only does it create much needed jobs for local Texans, but also feeds the local economy. Would you rather they build the Tundra in Canada?
TheDude
Marauder2005
Oh! Look at the grouse!
Well all the interior parts of Ford's are made in China, so ya can't win.
Fastronald
Senior Member
truck
Don't be upset when REAL Americans laugh at your jap truck
Don't be upset when REAL Americans laugh at your jap truck
Dr Caleb
Vendi Vidi Velcro
I'll bet most of the Marauder interior was manufactured near the St. Thomas plant, by Magna International. Cars and Auto parts represent Canada's #1 export product.
http://www.magnaint.com/magna/en/products/expertise/intier/default.aspx
Nobody in the US would listen to Demming ... Toyota and Honda did... It all goes around.
Shora
Senior Member
Not to long ago they were laughing at "jap" cars. Now, the Japanese have the best selling sedans in the country and also own the mini-van market (Ford and GM gave up and will no longer even try to compete). Also, in 2006, more Toyotas were sold in California then both Ford and GM combined.
Keep laughing if you want but if they don't start building quality "trucks" that can out perform those with a Japanese name they may one day give up the truck market also.
And for the record, buying a Toyota/ Honda that is built in the USA helps more middle class Americans (like me and probably most of you) then buying a Marauder or other Fords built in Canada/ Mexico.
I care about giving jobs to middle class Americans and NOT white color executives. Helping Ford, while they move many of their plants and operations over seas does not help me (or you) in anyway. Buying a Toyota/ Honda that is built here gives honest jobs (with honest pay) to the Americans that I care about-The Hard Working Middle Class.
F__K Elena Ford and all the other executives. They do NOTHING for me. If they want me to remain loyal (my last 3 cars/ trucks were Fords and 8 currently in my family) they better produce a better product than their competition and BUILD IT HERE! I want my money going to the middle class here in the USA and not the middle class of Mexico/ Canada.
Also, do not give me that b/s why they have to build them in Mexico/ Canada because it is cheaper. If Honda and Toyota (Toyota has 9 plus plants here in the US) can build cars/ trucks here and make a profit so can they.
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Bluerauder
CAMaraudin' in Virginia
The two ads for the Toyota Tundra certainly caught my eye during the SuperBowl. I liked 'em. At least their marketers hit the nail on the head with the "performance" aspect. The message clearly was "Powerful and Fast, too". Compare that to the two Ford ads that I recall .... the Edge and the Ford Superduty. Both were :blah: blah IMHO.
Marauderjack
Senior Member
Y'all can dance around this all you want but the same thing that destroyed the TEXTILE industry here is now destroying the US auto industry!!!:argue:
The foreign manufacturers that came here did their homework and DID IT RIGHT!!!:bows:
Sorry but it is true!!
Marauderjack
The foreign manufacturers that came here did their homework and DID IT RIGHT!!!:bows:
Sorry but it is true!!
Marauderjack
Marauder2005
Oh! Look at the grouse!
TheDude
New member
Hey, I drive a Jap truck, and I'm a "real" American. Being American has nothing to do with trucks. My truck was built in California. The Toyota plant there employs "real Americans", so they can feed their families. Where I live, Ford is closing up shop. I have friends who will now need to find jobs to feed their families. If Ford wants "real Americans" to buy its products, they need to design and build better products.
TheDude
Motorhead350
New member
Dude some people just don't get it. A car or truck is simply a car or a truck. I even heard some will get mad at you if you have a Toyota for a work truck because it's a non-union company.... thats really takes the cake as far as people being for narrow minded on anything thats not built in this country. (To everyone else) I said it before and I'll say it again, it's free market and we're all trying to make a buck so don't give the imports a hard time for trying to feed their families. If you don't like it fine, but don't say someone isn't an American for seeing outside the box. Maybe I should throw my 350 in a Datson and wip some Mustang butt. OOOO wait did I say that? I'm really in trouble now!!! American and Japanese product working together!!!! Ah Oh!!
I guess I've always been a "buy what you like" person. It would seem to me that that the marketplace decides which car meets the need. Aside from that, I have a couple of serious questions that some may think are obvious:
Is my wife's new Mazda CX-7 really a Ford?
The platform for the CX-7 is shared with Ford and Volvo and I believe it is a Detroit design.
It came with Ford X plan pricing.
Ford owns 33% of Mazda. The math may be fuzzy but 2/3 of the profits go to Japan but 1/3 stays with Ford.
I don't have "import guilt", I just don't know how one can classify a particular vehicle as "American" or "Import".
It's easier with my Mercedes- it's German. Designed there, made there. I think I'd have the same Mazda questions if I bought a Dodge Charger. German designed components and a German parent company.
Thoughts?
Is my wife's new Mazda CX-7 really a Ford?
The platform for the CX-7 is shared with Ford and Volvo and I believe it is a Detroit design.
It came with Ford X plan pricing.
Ford owns 33% of Mazda. The math may be fuzzy but 2/3 of the profits go to Japan but 1/3 stays with Ford.
I don't have "import guilt", I just don't know how one can classify a particular vehicle as "American" or "Import".
It's easier with my Mercedes- it's German. Designed there, made there. I think I'd have the same Mazda questions if I bought a Dodge Charger. German designed components and a German parent company.
Thoughts?
Dr Caleb
Vendi Vidi Velcro
I agree. I nearly bought a Subaru Impreza, rather than my Marauder. But I didn't like the way I was treated in the showroom. I fell in lust with my Marauder the moment I saw it, like I wanted to lick it all over or mate with it or something.
I've owned several GM's and several Fords. One Suzuki. If I thought for a second that buying a product would dishonour the memories of the fallen, I wouldn't. But it won't. Not remebering their sacrifice would dishonour them. Not respecting the peace they achieved would dishonour them.
Otherwise, people who still hold grudges against Japan for wars started by megolomaniac Japanese Generals wouldn't buy Volkswagens, Dodges, GM's, Fords, Coke or IBM's - because they all supported the Nazis. Some things just need to rest.
My buddy imports cars from Japan - stuff that we can't get here, and frankly, some are just fantastic. I recently rode in a Toyota Aristo twin turbo - quite a screamer! It pulls HARD to well over 150km/h. He's got a 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser with a 4.2l Turbo Diesel, 4WD with center lock diff - flawless! I've had rides in Skylines with over 700RWHP from an inline 6 cyl. He's got a BMW 325 iX AWD Turbo that I can pick up for less than I paid for my (at the time) 8 year old Crown Vic.
If people stopped buying the crappy electronics that are planeed to burn out in 3 years+1 week, or the rattle traps that pass for some North American (and many European) 'cars', then companies like Ford may get the hint, and stop doing what the bean counters want. The 'Hummer H3' (and I've driven an HumVee) proves if you put a body kit on a Suburban, people will buy things regardless of price or quality. And Ford won't even admit the crappy paint on my car is worse then my sisters Focus which costs 1/3 the price.
Make us the cars we want, and we'll buy them. Or someone who does make what we want will get our business.
MarauderMark
Senior Member
Who cares who builds them as long as there are aftermarket parts to turn it into a hotrod.I'm all for it.:burn:
Motorhead350
New member
Who cares who builds them as long as there are aftermarket parts to turn it into a hotrod.I'm all for it.:burn:
There you go!
ChiTownMaraud3r
boostin
Wow, this is a long thread already. Quite impressive numbers off of the new Tundra, but if it was me I'd be sticking with the new f150 or silverado, I think looks are very important off the bat and american styling always seems to win me over.
And for whoever was talking about tvs not being made in the USA, I'm not completely 100% positive, but I think Visio, Westinghouse, and Maxent TVs are made in the US, not sure though, I'll look it up tomorrow.
And for whoever was talking about tvs not being made in the USA, I'm not completely 100% positive, but I think Visio, Westinghouse, and Maxent TVs are made in the US, not sure though, I'll look it up tomorrow.
Marauder2005
Oh! Look at the grouse!
Westing House, I have not herd that name in a long time. There under the
RCA name I believe.