Open Letter to Admin.

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Originally Posted by Zack
Instead of being interested in my question to Jerry, you chose to take my tone as insulting toward him. Like usual, y'all went into 'bodyguard mode' trying to help Jerry dodge the bullets. The bullets were questions Im still waiting for an answer to, and eagerly await. Remember, Im a customer now. Please dont portray me as a predator.
Im just trying to understand whats under MY hood now.
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I only know about Zack from his posts....... Never met the guy. I met Jerry Barnes at the Heavyweight Shootout, after hearing about him and his products from other members for some time.

I came away with from the event/meeting really enthusiastic about wht can be done to my car. Why? because of all the people at this event running Trilogy's, and Jerry himself. Jerry was approachable, had no ego whatsoever and was extremely gracious, even while dealing with his own misfortune with Trilogy 1.

This is the lesson I would suggest to you Zack. It does you no good to try and swap swords with a person of Jerry's reputation. If he is where you want to be someday, learn how he got there then emulate. Going the discredit and eliminate root here will only expose your real motives further.

As for MCM.net another community with a flavor all its own. That is until you came along with that:bs: thread.
"We was just having a drink, and then you came in all acting like a bigshot...

~"Now go get your shine box"~!

Is that what you were hoping for?
 
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Tallboy said:
You're right, Darryl. It has to do with the "character"of the people involved, not the blower.
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Exactly!

Character "the mental and moral qualities distinctive to an individual." *strength and orginality in a persons nature. * the quality of being individual, typically in an interesting or unusal way. Finally, a persons good reputation: to what do I owe this attack on my character?
 
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GAMike said:
I came away with from the event/meeting really enthusiastic about wht can be done to my car. Why? because of all the people at this event running Trilogy's, and Jerry himself. Jerry was approachable, had no ego whatsoever and was extremely gracious, even while dealing with his own misfortune with Trilogy 1.
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I know what an be done to Marauders as well, Ive owned every kit but the FIT!

Im approachable and gracious as well. Do you want to meet me too?
Whats your point?
 
My point is that you come off like a dope.

Not like the class act that Jerry is. maybe I am wrong.... I hope I am.... But coming on MCM.net and stirring the pot like you did was something that a person of Jerry's stature would never do.
 
Not to change the subject or anything but.....

IF the 9 (now 8) had not purchased the site, and YOU did, what would you have done differently?

If you were in their position now, how would you resolve the current situation?

KillJoy

PS - This BS has GOT to end at somepoint, or this forum is going to go NOWHERE!!!
 
What the hell are you talking about Tom? I was referring to the vendor fees I was asked to pay, since they were (as I felt) grossly out of line with a hobbyist level as I was.

But I'm glad to see you and the planning committee were able to provide support back to the site and its members. Hopefully it will be used to host further events.

I might add I hadn't seen any thank you's to the SSM MV4 organizers regarding the donation. Maybe why I missed it

MarauderTJA said:
Totally untrue. The MV IV planning committee came to a group decision to give a portion of left over remaining proceeds to MM.NET to assist with keeping the website up and running. A check was presented at the farewell breakfast to Mary and Dennis.
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shakes_26 said:
What the hell are you talking about Tom? I was referring to the vendor fees I was asked to pay, since they were (as I felt) grossly out of line with a hobbyist level as I was.

But I'm glad to see you and the planning committee were able to provide support back to the site and its members. Hopefully it will be used to host further events.

I might add I hadn't seen any thank you's to the SSM MV4 organizers regarding the donation. Maybe why I missed it
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Ignore him, Marc. He's been doing a lot of talking about a lot of people without knowing the facts.
 
I have my feelings on this site and how it's been run since Logan left, but I don't see anything productive out of voicing them.

However, one thing that would be nice, is if the owners/admins/moderators all had something that identified them as that. I know there are supposed to be 9 people I think, but I only know who about 3-4 of them are.
 
The percentage of members that have been banded and posts deleted is low.

Many members have over 1,000 post and have never been banded or had a single post deleted.

I try to use the Rotary 4 Way Test, which I have posted before,;
"Of the things we think, say or do:

Is it the TRUTH?

Is it FAIR to all concerned?

Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS?

Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned?"

Live by it and you will go far in life.

All who know me know I am very out spoken. Point being you can still speak your peace w/out offending.

You cannot win an arguement or gain knowledge or have a relationship w/ some one if you insult them.

Everyone in this world has knowledge and skills that I do not. I can never see what another sees because I cannot occupy their space.
 
shakes_26 said:
What the hell are you talking about Tom? I was referring to the vendor fees I was asked to pay, since they were (as I felt) grossly out of line with a hobbyist level as I was.

But I'm glad to see you and the planning committee were able to provide support back to the site and its members. Hopefully it will be used to host further events.

I might add I hadn't seen any thank you's to the SSM MV4 organizers regarding the donation. Maybe why I missed it
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Marc - I approached you as a vendor since you were on Logan's vendor list, just as we approached all other vendors. I don't recall you telling me you thought the standard monthly fee was grossly out of line. Since that time, we have lowered our pricing, including prepaid discounting. Since you are a contributing member, we can certainly consider you a hobbyist. You just had to say so.

Also - here is the post in which I thanked the talented MVIV Planning Team and also thanked them for their generous donation to this website. This money will be used as seed money for upcoming raffles. Please stay tuned.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=442838
 
Wow. I guess I've missed some stuff lately! I think I will wait for the movie to come out. I heard it was being called "Marauder Place", or "Valley of the Marauders", or maybe "As the Marauder Turns". Not to make light of it, but there are many more important things in life.

Just an observation...

Wags

PS - This post has no hidden meaning about anything, and implies nothing! (disclaimer)
 
Dennis Reinhart said:
snip... I will tell you what I know for a fact, you can not win arguments on the Internet, I also have found you cannot reason with unreasonable people, and I am not saying you are. I am just speaking from my heart as to what I know and what I have learned.
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Smartest thing I've seen posted since the change of ownership.
 
Poof The Majic Dragon

LILALLEYKATT made a post yesterday and politely asked Mac to not be so "OVERHANDED" when deleting post after post....It was done in a professional AND a non derogitory way....Then less than an hour later he is banned and the post deleted because he "personally attacked an owner" in which he did not.... STOP THE POLITICAL SENSORSHIP WE LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY...This site is not geared twords 7 year olds we are adults .....
 
I don't know about all of you but most of the animosities that exist between individuals here are the result of something that was typed and displayed on a computer screen...pretty far removed from real life.

Real life is a child being born, losing a father, a serious illness, getting married, divorced, loosing your job, getting a promotion....getting together with your friends knocking back a few, a caravan of 50 Marauders stopping six lanes of traffic on the Interstate.

We seem to be able to play together and even pray together, when one of us is down...really down, we pick him or her back up. No group of people other than family that I have ever been associated with is more helpful to each other than "our group".

Like real families we also fight like hell....so far it is in the "forgive and lets try a fresh start" area that we seem to be doing a lousy job. It seems totally unreal to me that people can't bring themselves to just say "let's put the harsh words behind us and try again" after all most of the bad stuff happened in cyberspace, not the real world.
 
Smokie said:
I don't know about all of you but most of the animosities that exist between individuals here are the result of something that was typed and displayed on a computer screen...pretty far removed from real life.

Real life is a child being born, losing a father, a serious illness, getting married, divorced, loosing your job, getting a promotion....getting together with your friends knocking back a few, a caravan of 50 Marauders stopping six lanes of traffic on the Interstate.

We seem to be able to play together and even pray together, when one of us is down...really down, we pick him or her back up. No group of people other than family that I have ever been associated with is more helpful to each other than "our group".

Like real families we also fight like hell....so far it is in the "forgive and lets try a fresh start" area that we seem to be doing a lousy job. It seems totally unreal to me that people can't bring themselves to just say "let's put the harsh words behind us and try again" after all most of the bad stuff happened in cyberspace, not the real world.
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Very, Very well said.

KillJoy
 
Every body has one, some are one

DING, DING, DING

That round of discussions is now over!

I don't usually post, but this thread is just ridiculous.

I feel the same way as Salismen:
Generally stated: If you don't have anything nice or constructive to say.....maybe you should just keep that ill-will to your self
in other words just don't say it!!!

I know, by meeting some of them, that some people are just sarcastic
and don't chime in unless there is a place to stick a blade/knife/sharp object...sometimes a tongue.


I will not point any fingers...thats not cool either.
But the pot stirrers know who they are, and should take a chill pill, because what you are doing is not productive and generally spoiling the water for the rest of us.!!

This is not a rant but a wake up call, if you act like a J**k here, how are you in the real world????? just give it a moment and think about it.

I have looked at the "other site", its a local site for them, with no real info of any usable kind....it was kind of barren of information, more of a post what you want site,.

So, if you are looking to BASH or be sarcastic....please go else where....yes, we may loose a few....but some of their opinions are tainted

I am done....rant off

Gregg
 
Open Letters suck..:banned: Let's get back to happy thoughts, maybe
a few here could use a few :beer: "s and some naked picture's...............:censor:
 
My blah blah blahs

It is very well said, Smokie. But for people like me who are mostly interested in lurking and getting a little extra techno info or some pics that can maybe help future installations, some of the "moderation" is a little bit to much, considering the meaning of the word. Everybody who has a shop or can take pictures of their work to share isn't exactly counting on every member coming to them to have their work done. I, at least, can't afford to drag my car all over the nation to get everything done. What I can do, and what I assume many of these "vendors" know I can do, is look at their installations, pick up my own ideas about what I want to do, and then find a way to work it out locally.

I don't even have a Marauder. I've got a supercharged '05 Mustang. But I've been fortunate enough to meet a few of the guys who have posted here at different events. Some of those people have their own shops, and they work on Mustangs, not just Marauders. But rather than try to sell me on taking long trips to their shops, they've kindly provided me with a wealth of different information, KNOWING that I would try to duplicate part of their work through different sources. That's not selling me their product. That's just being very friendly.

So when I see helpful info being wiped out in what seems to be a pretty a pretty casual way, it takes a lot of the fun and purpose out of my visits. When I see discussions on the matter blown off the board...well, that does about the same way.

I figure I'm useless here for most of you, so if this disappears, well, ok. But let's be realistic. For the users here, this website was created to pass along knowledge and create building and recreational opportunities for like-minded individuals. When it gets to be all about opinions, money, and the power to regulate everything accordingly, then half the purpose eventually goes missing.

It would be kind of nice to see you guys settle down on all the restructuring and let the website kind of roll on it's own for a little while. After that, after people have a more positive idea of what's going on, then talk about the changes, rather than rushing in headlong and wiping everything out on a whim.

My two bits said. Now I'll go back to being extra quiet. :D
 
Jaa said:
LILALLEYKATT made a post yesterday and politely asked Mac to not be so "OVERHANDED" when deleting post after post....It was done in a professional AND a non derogitory way....Then less than an hour later he is banned and the post deleted because he "personally attacked an owner" in which he did not.... STOP THE POLITICAL SENSORSHIP WE LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY...This site is not geared twords 7 year olds we are adults .....
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You have no idea what you are talking about. You have ONE post and this is it??


Trolling is not welcome here, please leave the arguments to the professionals
 
MERCMAN said:
please leave the arguments to the professionals
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The "experts" have been Trying to solve the Israeli / Palestinian thing for over 50 years now....:(

All this is gonna take to solve is someone willing to say
" I am sorry, I was wrong. Please forgive me."
Whether they think they are wrong or not. Even if they own a piece of Cyberspace... or not.
That's a tough one.

We all have a responsibility to not fuel the fire here or somewhere else, if possible.

"Thank goodness I contributed to this site, I feel my voice can now be heard!" See.... that is an example of fueling the fire, let's not do that!!!:flamer: :flamer: :flamer:
 
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